The BlueSky Killer
Radical centrism need to be a popular term.
We think this was a psyop on the shooter. This is actually part of a larger psyop to give Adam enough mental damage he crashes out of journalism completely
When a dem politician becomes President again they won’t even pardon him because “decorum” and “rule of law” or some shit, dude ruined his life for absolutely nothing at all.
this dude would be honored to get executed by Kamala Harris
Of course he won’t ever be pardoned.
If the dems get back into power that itself would ‘prove’ that political violence wasn’t neccessary to save the country (from what they will themselves then continue doing while ignoring it over brunch).
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Someone said that when you convince liberals that the reason things are the way they are is entirely and totally caused by the orange man then it is not that surprising that for some of them their solution becomes “kill the orange man”.
You don’t see marxists or fascists trying to kill Trump because both these wings of politics also understand that killing him will change absolutely nothing. You’ll get an aesthetic change. Libs will go back to brunch. Media will change its tune. But fundamentally everything will be the same.
It is only the centrist true believers
that think removing him is the panacea to all things. Much like they think you can do the same with Putin or Xi and magically things will be different. To them everything is done by a single individual and not by systems, organisations and political movements.You don’t see marxists or fascists trying to kill Trump because both these wings of politics also understand that killing him will change absolutely nothing.
I doubt a Marxist would have an opportunity and just not take it, IMO it’s much more likely they’re not trying to naruto-run leeroy jenkins everything. You gotta remember that libs don’t have 5 year plans.
the only material advantage to getting rid of trump is that none of the other buffoons can wrangle the cult. the downshot would be that that any replacement wouldn’t upset liberals nearly as much so they’d go back to brunch and find a way to get owned in the midterms.
Trump getting got would be the best thing for the MAGA movement politically, to be fair. There’s no more glory for trump’s admin in the remaining years, he’s going to break the maga coalition apart irreparably if he keeps going. If he gets got he gets a hagiography and hero treatment by his base and all his fuckups will be forgotten.
You don’t see marxists or fascists trying to kill Trump because both these wings of politics also understand that killing him will change absolutely nothing.
Nah fascists definitely believe in great man theory, that’s why Pissrael and Trump both open with going after leaders.
To them everything is done by a single individual and not by systems, organisations and political movements.
I’ve been drinking the kool aid and avoiding discourse for so long that I didn’t remember that this is a possible interpretation of the world. Say what you will about my cringe beliefs, but I’m the type of beast that thinks the bore-geo-icy only makes MLK-style concessions when the Black Panthers are the other option.
Yeah this type of dude just sincerely believes that if Trump dies things will be different instead of just the same monster wearing a different face.
If marxists believed Trump was the problem and getting rid of him would be better then he’d be dead hundreds of times by now. There’s been so many opportunities. He’s alive because we believe it wouldn’t constitute real change.
These radical centrists are sacrificing themselves for this because they sincerely believe it. Their brains are totally cooked by an ideology that you can’t even write coherent books about because none of it is coherent.
Reminder, this is what he did, the kid who shot Trump in the ear actually did more damage than this bozo
I have only seen the video where he runs past security, how did he wind up shirtless??
EDIT: best guess from the internet bullshit vortex is that the thumbs removed his clothes to search for additional weapons or explosives
u gotta pay for the full vid
is there a video? why is his shirt off?
Apparently they strip searched him by removing all his clothes and wrapping him in a thermal blanket.
Not to my knowledge, I wish I could tell you lol
Adventurism doesn’t solve anything, but you must not be a reactionary to understand that.
But if you teach people not to be reactionaries, if you teach them to think critically then Capitalism is unsustainable.
Cmon, adveturism is entertaining at least, and occasionally produces some small material good or at least satisfaction/justice. Of course it isn’t exactly revolutionary, but :looks around: seems like the best we are producing right now.
Yeah, it’s not going to cause structural change but that healthcare CEO getting blicked made united healthcare pull their foot off the gas on medical denials for a few weeks. Probably saved dozens or hundreds of lives at bare minimum.
My position on Gaza is nuanced. My position of what’s happening to Jews at home is not.
Literal
faceThis is advanced western chauvinism, unheard of and incomprehensible outside
Wait so he wasn’t activated by Palestine?
What was he so angry about? The price of gas?
My position on Gaza is nuanced. My position of what’s happening to Jews at home is not.
What’s happening to them? There’s more violence to anti-zionist jews in america than the other way around.
The nuance here being “I thirst for the blood of the innocent, but it’s unfashionable to say it outright in my circles.”
100.000 murders, but it’s outside of the USA:
Someone has been insulted and it’s in the USA:
Adam stop speaking in twitter-user tense.
I’ve seen a whole lot of liberals respond to this just straight up calling it fake, that it was staged by the Trump admin in order to… achieve something? Improve poll numbers, I guess?
It’s kinda interesting that, for some chunk of liberals, they’re now responding to political news and historical events in the same way MAGA always has: like its a reality television show.
I’ve seen a whole lot of liberals respond to this just straight up calling it fake, that it was staged by the Trump admin
Well, that seems to be the prevailing theory among the brightest of Hexbear, so you are correct.
I thought people were just joking, are some people actually seriously saying that this was some kind of “false flag” or something? Just because a would-be assassin is incompetent doesn’t make it a false flag. If anything, I would except them to be hyper-competent, like movie levels of competent in a false flag, since they’re putting on a show for the public.
Yeah, every thread on the subject has 2-3 comments near the top saying it. And not in an ironic way.
And out of anything, I think his politics are the biggest indicator it wasn’t a false flag. There’s no way they are pinning it on a centrist resistance dem who fully supported every aspect of American imperialism. It doesn’t help the narrative for a crackdown at all.
I thought most of those were jokes. Oh dear. I think it is normal to have a knee jerk reaction of “false flag” with this sort of stuff, but people really need to just be comfortable with not knowing all the details yet and not forming a strong opinion before more information comes to light.
There’s unfortunately a portion of people here whose worldview is mostly being contrarian, and they just wanna react to things without putting any effort. There’s a few things I’ve been noticing recently that are making me wish the quality of discussion here was a bit higher. I’ll just keep complaining about it and hope it gets better lol.
I’m hoping this post is a sign of a turning point in discussion: https://hexbear.net/post/8354559
Ooh, I somehow missed that thread, even though I’ve been thinking about exactly that. I’m giving it a read, thanks.
Unironically that’s part of how to elevate the discussion. People need to speak more freely. Related to the post damarcus linked, purple also need to be less hostile.
Back on the subreddit there was a lot of “don’t worry about the quality, no lurking! You must post! Everyone post!” Type of attitude. We should encourage participation!
Unironically that’s part of how to elevate the discussion.
No, it is not. There is no value to be gained in purposefully adding low-quality discussion. You could instead add something of significance. That would be elevating the discussion. Low-quality discussion makes the quality of the discussion lower, actually. That’s what words mean.
And in the link you are talking about, one of the points is “don’t ignore incorrect ideas or bad behavior”, which is exactly what I’m advocating for.
People need to speak more freely.
Nope. People who don’t know what they are talking about should silently read more. No investigation, no right to speak. If they are going to actually think about the things they are saying, then yes.
Back on the subreddit
Oh, in that case, you’ve convinced me.
liberals
Did I stutter?
I mean it won him the election last time.
Do you think it moved the needle enough to be a deciding factor?
only radical centrists would get worked up enough by Trump to bother assassinating him
I think it’s some credit to us that 0 marxists were stupid enough to do an adventurism on Trump
A proper Marxist would have the presence of mind to pull an Inglourious Basterds on the entire upper echelon and the Supreme Court simultaneously, and also deploy partisans by train to seize control of Congress. Unfortunately, DC’s rail system is not up to the task, so here we are circlejerking about the Romanovs.
yeah the hilton is old enough and the event is in the basement iirc so there’s definitely some real opportunities there for a substandard fire safety situation.
So that’s why they hate train infrastructure so much…
Yeah we should keep it clean and just punch him in the balls a bunch until he resigns
they’re also consistently offered no outlet other than vooting, and adventurist nihilism is what a person turns to when they have given up on any notion of organized resistance.
i’ve said it a couple times before, but if oil execs start getting capped that’s when i’ll assume it was a comrade
At this point “incoherent politics” is the default assumption for Americans
To be fair, I think his is one of the most coherent politics I’ve seen so far. Its some sort of hyper liberal, radical centrist.
incoherent
It’s a very, very low bar lol
Centrists will say voting 3rd party pales in comparison to my strategy of
and then not .Bro wtf, his username is Olive Consumer?
Only based thing about him, I love olives 😋😋😋
