• Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    Someone said that when you convince liberals that the reason things are the way they are is entirely and totally caused by the orange man then it is not that surprising that for some of them their solution becomes “kill the orange man”.

    You don’t see marxists or fascists trying to kill Trump because both these wings of politics also understand that killing him will change absolutely nothing. You’ll get an aesthetic change. Libs will go back to brunch. Media will change its tune. But fundamentally everything will be the same.

    It is only the centrist true believers lenin-dont-laugh that think removing him is the panacea to all things. Much like they think you can do the same with Putin or Xi and magically things will be different. To them everything is done by a single individual and not by systems, organisations and political movements.

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      You don’t see marxists or fascists trying to kill Trump because both these wings of politics also understand that killing him will change absolutely nothing.

      Nah fascists definitely believe in great man theory, that’s why Pissrael and Trump both open with going after leaders.

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      the only material advantage to getting rid of trump is that none of the other buffoons can wrangle the cult. the downshot would be that that any replacement wouldn’t upset liberals nearly as much so they’d go back to brunch and find a way to get owned in the midterms.

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        Trump getting got would be the best thing for the MAGA movement politically, to be fair. There’s no more glory for trump’s admin in the remaining years, he’s going to break the maga coalition apart irreparably if he keeps going. If he gets got he gets a hagiography and hero treatment by his base and all his fuckups will be forgotten.

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      To them everything is done by a single individual and not by systems, organisations and political movements.

      I’ve been drinking the kool aid and avoiding discourse for so long that I didn’t remember that this is a possible interpretation of the world. Say what you will about my cringe beliefs, but I’m the type of beast that thinks the bore-geo-icy only makes MLK-style concessions when the Black Panthers are the other option.

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        Yeah this type of dude just sincerely believes that if Trump dies things will be different instead of just the same monster wearing a different face.

        If marxists believed Trump was the problem and getting rid of him would be better then he’d be dead hundreds of times by now. There’s been so many opportunities. He’s alive because we believe it wouldn’t constitute real change.

        These radical centrists are sacrificing themselves for this because they sincerely believe it. Their brains are totally cooked by an ideology that you can’t even write coherent books about because none of it is coherent.

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      You don’t see marxists or fascists trying to kill Trump because both these wings of politics also understand that killing him will change absolutely nothing.

      I doubt a Marxist would have an opportunity and just not take it, IMO it’s much more likely they’re not trying to naruto-run leeroy jenkins everything. You gotta remember that libs don’t have 5 year plans.

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          Absolutely not, Mamdani correctly recognized that his mission in life was to reduce Halal prices for me, and that any detours that risked Tabitha not getting cheaper Halal would risk a 1000 year era of darkness for humanity. Cole had better chances than Mamdani, but more importantly, Mamdani had something better to do.