Look part of me is kind of an asshole and absolutely hates anyone who isn’t smart enough not to fall for a pysop and this is a fault of mine as you need to teach people first however i don’t think I am wrong on this ,this level of ignorance mixed with arrogance boils my blood
besides the fact that is an obvious and extremely pathetic attempt at a smear ,there have been probably a million dead Palestinians for the past 2 years ,most being children followed by the elderly and then women ,most of the deaths being against helpless civilians in the world’s biggest concentration camp and against a population that has faced countless wars and has shit condition from birth to death ,the entirety of Gaza is rubble
and I fucking look at you tube and it’s full of “haha evil leftist terrorist sympathizer hasan is evil and shocks his dog”
and although this started from the destiny and ethan orbits , the supposed “Normies” are talking about it too ,siding against Hasan ofc
of course hasan didn’t even shock his dog but who cares about that, my feelings are more important than your facts ,how else are we gonna make slop content on this shit ass website
Blocked every fucking channel
I want you comrades to know that this is not directed at anyone here ,it’s for the “apolitical” and “normies” on YouTube ,stormfront and shitter
Genuinely FUCK YOU 🫵
I have a friend who trains dogs who is fully on Hasans side for this. People that don’t understand dogs past “doggo” are getting mad. The dog was okay, Hasan was essentially training what’s called a “place” command, for people who don’t want to crate their dogs. You have to reinforce before they finish the behavior(getting off the bed). She wrote me volumes about this.
I also train dogs and — assuming he did use some sort of aversive stimulus on his dog — I am both on his side and not on his side.
If he used vibrate, as he claims his collar can only vibrate, I am less on his side. Many (most I’ve worked with) dogs find it to be more aversive than low-level electric shock.
If he used shock, I’m more on his side.
BUT if he used shock, lied about it, and claimed he used vibrate, then I’m barely on his side. I’m only on his side insofar as I am in favor of the use of aversives to train dogs (as long as the trainer/handler knows wtf they’re doing, which Hassan likely does not). Lying about it on the other hand? Very not on his side about that.
Ultimately I don’t really care. Rather, I hope more people can develop a more nuanced understanding of the use of e-collars in dog training.
Some dogs prefer vibration, some dogs prefer shock. Most dogs benefit from some form of aversive or another. Aversive =/= pain. Aversive = discomfort.
See my other comment in this thread for a slightly unhinged rant on the subject.
i’m just not a permanently online person. :)
i don’t like streamers in general. everyone’s a grifter. hasan doesn’t seem to know the theory, he seems like a vibe based american “leftist” that babbles his constant stream of consiousness into a mic. would be funny if he did it. then i’d have more reasons to dislike him.
Israel has been doing Hasbara all wrong- they just needed to insinuate that Palestinians abuse animals daily and make a snide remark about how it’s part of their culture to get all the smug ignorant normies and liberals to mass produce memes of their own accord and significantly shift the tide of public favor towards Israel. Absolute shit for brains these people have
that could unfortunately work
I got sent the h3h3 subreddit in a dm as proof for restoring a comment I removed here lmao. All the evidence I need
The comment will stay removed
wdym
Someone thought the dog abuse thing was legit and cited h3h3 to me
bruh
CW: Abuse of children, drug abuse
Destiny is going to go to prison for possessing CSAM/Unconsensual recordings (or possibly for criticisng charlie kirk 😐). Meanwhile, H3H3 got exposed for having “pedophile reddit account” and has thrown his reputation in the garbage over the last two years running a harassment podcast while also abusing stimulants and ignoring his kids/ sleeping in a different room from his wife.
It’s crazy thats there’s a large, dedicated community that’s sole focus is slandering and ruining Hasan’s career. I think the even crazier part is that this harassment community took THIS long for any of their attacks to gain motion. For someone who is live for 30% of the week and is constantly being hate watched, it is honestly impressive how long it took for Hasan to slip up and have a clip they can use
crazy it’s such a nothing burger too ,makes me have a bit of respect for hasan
too bad “normies” love dogs more than non white people
Yet another streamer nothingburger is spread far and wide to distract audiences from more pressing issues, such as white genocide in South Africa. Right now, as Hasan is being accused of shocking his dog, real white people are being killed in impunity, and no one has the courage to break the silence that lets the South African government avoid responsibility for the most brutal acts of mass murder on the African continent since 1994.
Needs more dashes to really sell it lol
i haven’t been here as much as I used to be but I appreciate that we still have elite tier bit accounts lmfao
Oh you’re the reason posting dried up. Cut it out
I miss @aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net, @groKKK@hexbear.net could educate him about this genocide that has been covered up so well he couldn’t even see it happen in front of him in his own country.
They still post on Lemmygrad. Their role of weapons analysis has been filled by Marmite.
They still post on Lemmygrad.
Not for 6 months.
Oh shit. Now I’m kind of sad.
comrade thank you for making me laugh in these hard times
Man, I know we’re here to talk about how fucking dumb the whole situation is, but there’s something in particular about this that is so fucking stupid outside of the psy-op part:
If Hasan does have a “vibrate only” collar, it’s highly likely that his dog FUCKING HATES IT. Many dogs find vibrating collars to be more aversive than low-to-mid-level shock, because it’s scary and uncomfortable as shit.
Shit, dawg, I’m gonna take this opportunity to rant about some shit.
Seriously, find a collar that does both vibration and shock, strap it to your neck, and have a friend/partner/stranger/whoever shock you without warning at a setting that would be considered a reasonable “working level” for a pet dog (in between a 1-Low and 2-Med on a garmin/tritronics models, somewhere between 5-15 for e-collar tech.). Great. Feel that? It ain’t much, is it? Kinda almost feels nice, right? Cool. Now, have that same person hit you with the vibrate function without warning. FUCKIN SCARY AND UNCOMFY RIGHT??
Here’s the thing, folks: shock collars aren’t bad. In fact, if you are against the euthanasia of “problem” dogs, you should probably be PRO shock collar. Anyone who says otherwise has likely never spent any time with a truly powerful, aggro, anxious, dominant dog. And all you R+ folks out there, let me know how your fucking “positive only” methods work on a bigass mal or dutchie who wants to fucking hurt you.
If you’re anti-collar and are a totally pro-animal liberation, anti animal-husbandry totally vegan person who believes that we shouldn’t even have pets, then you get a pass, because your logic is consistent with those views. Anyone else can fuck right off if you’re hating on e-collars.
More lefties need to get into the k9 protection world, not for sport, but out of necessity. Some shit will likely come to pass in the future, and dogs are going to be a not insignificant component. You wanna know who currently has the monopoly on fucking hard ass dogs who can do WAY more than just bite? It ain’t lefties, thats for sure. The stuff out in the public domain about the U.S. military use of dogs for surveillance/recon/protection/violence etc is absolutely nutty. And that’s just the stuff in the public domain.
Aight sorry rant over
Tbf this was a very organised smear campaign. Probably the strongest I’ve seen from Israel in a while.
hasan has a hate cult too and westerners do love their dogs (literally hitler)
so that helps
Tbh I don’t even know if we can blame Israel. Hasan has an absolutely insane cult like hater sphere. Not to say everyone who dislikes him is in that, but he’s got some real freaks that do, and they organize stuff like this.
I blame crackers for caring more about dogs than people.
Yeah
Everything I know about streamers I have learned without my consent.
same
For folks that visit this site, I think they just need to be educated. This is basically a perfect teachable moment for recognizing and understanding propaganda and how it works, even on oneself, and how to push back on it. It is relatively low-stakes and the content is petty, but that actually makes it easier to understand and explain. Anyone on hexbear falling for this is going to have a hard time adapting appropriately to irl organizing and messaging, as there will inevitably be people flinging shit at your org or neighboring orgs and you will need to respond strategically, not with knee-jerk acceptance of narratives.
Liberals rely heavily on spreading salacious rumors and accusations about left orgs to tarnish them, even when their true opposition is not the rumors, but that they are made uncomfortable due to, for example, having to recognize their own complicity in genocide. They will amplify bad faith narratives ir even true narratives that are exceptions rather than characteristic of the organization. For example, I know local liberal union leaders that badmouth PSL for “sexual misconduct”, making a confused reference to to the non-strategic handling of local drama in Philadelphia. Those same union leaders openly tolerated and promoted an actual sexpest that worked under them and who had been fired from two other unions for inappropriate relationships with peolle he supervised.
They do not care about the things they claim to care about. It is just about demonization of who they perceive as their enemies. Recognizing when this is happening is actually a very important part of successfully running an org. It even happens internally, as some members will think it is right to spread rumors and attack people in an unprincipled way. This tendency must be educated out and suppressed if necessary.
This extends to countries as well and how any non-NATO aligned country has every action made with the least charitable interpretation.
basically this parenti quote applied to anyone and everything that doesn’t match the state department
"In the United States, for over a hundred years, the ruling interests tirelessly propagated anticommunism among the populace, until it became more like a religious orthodoxy than a political analysis. During the cold war, the anticommunist ideological framework could transform any data about existing communist societies into hostile evidence. If the Soviets refused to negotiate a point, they were intransigent and belligerent; if they appeared willing to make concessions, this was but a skillful ploy to put us off our guard. By opposing arms limitations, they would have demonstrated their aggressive intent; but when in fact they supported most armament treaties, it was because they were mendacious and manipulative. If the churches in the USSR were empty, this demonstrated that religion was suppressed; but if the churches were full, this meant the people were rejecting the regime’s atheistic ideology. If the workers went on strike (as happened on infrequent occasions), this was evidence of their alienation from the collectivist system; if they didn’t go on strike, this was because they were intimidated and lacked freedom. A scarcity of consumer goods demonstrated the failure of the economic system; an improvement in consumer supplies meant only that the leaders were attempting to placate a restive population and so maintain a firmer hold over them.
If communists in the United States played an important role struggling for the rights of workers, the poor, African-Americans, women, and others, this was only their guileful way of gathering support among disfranchised groups and gaining power for themselves. How one gained power by fighting for the rights of powerless groups was never explained. What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy, so assiduously marketed by the ruling interests that it affected people across the entire political spectrum."
Yes, and it also depends on priming with negative sentiment. The premise must always be, “X is a bad country” whenever X is mentioned. An entirely different lexicon is uses for liberal-designated enemy countries and most people don’t even recognize the ways in which they have been manipulated to think this way. The enemy has regimes, dictators, strong men, censorship, and are very dangerous and bloodthirsty. In contrast, liberals have governments, elected leaders, decisive action, combat misinformation, and only take careful “interventions” to preserve “freedom and democracy”. They even use these terms to describe fascists and even monarchies so long as they are currently on the “friends” list.
Many words are perfect synonyms except with positive or negative connotation and this is effective for manipulation and messaging. They literally have no additional meaning aside from the connotation but people read into it as if it is insightful. For a term X, it’s “X but it is bad” or “X but it is good” and someone using the term thinks they have reached a salient point just by using the term. Russia has foreign agents, we have NGOs supported by official democracy funding, and in fact if a country tries to force our smol bean NGOs to register they are an anti-democracy regime. When an enemy state restricts the press or creates its own networks, it’s censorship and propaganda against the free press. When our friends in the UK create and run the pro-genocide BBC and allow full corporate control of all other media, well that’s just freedom and democracy.
yep ,so tired of this bs
correct
Thousands of actual exploding pagers
One non-existent shocky collar
Thousands of actual exploding pagers
SIGH
yup, even charlie/moistcritikal fell for it. not a single fold on these people’s brains to be found
even charlie/moistcritikal fell for it
edit: changing my tone. i’m pissy rn sorry
i don’t think he fell for it. rather, i think he knew it was bullshit and intentionally put out a hit piece over it.
there’s a lot going on in streamer drama. destiny sex pest, tectone bots, h3 pedobear, etc. comes out to comment on this of all things? and while he has hasan’s personal phone number hangs out with hasan/hasan friends for collabs all the time… would take 10 seconds of texts to know it was bullshit.
he’s a right wing fuckwad and knows he’s eventually going to have to deal with leftists over it so joined in on the dogpile
e has hasan’s personal phone number
hasan has pretty bad freinds tbh
not a single fold on these people’s brains to be found
indeed comrade
It was kind of a surprise to see a bout of the old timey stereotype of the dog hating Muslim get that kind of traction, a real throw back to 2002.
They’re shocking and then eating the dogs, folks They call it the Antifa thanksgivingLMAO
The fact that a horde was so quick to jump and make their money on the bleeding edge of fact or fiction says a lot about character.
Edit: to clarify I mean the other streamers, here, not so much the audience
