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You know when it comes to racism, people say: “I don’t care if they’re black, white, purple or green”… Ooh hold on now: Purple or Green? You gotta draw the line somewhere! To hell with purple people! - Unless they’re suffocating - then help’em.
Mitch Hedberg
The other day i got one that said he didn’t care if the person was polka-dotted.
I was like Steve, I have known you since 1998. I have heard your thoughts on Mexicans. I am certain you’d have an issue with the polka-dotted if they existed.
I don’t care if you’re white, black or blue. But if you’re blue you should probably call an ambulance because that means your hypoxic.
“You know when it comes to racism, people say: " I don’t care if they’re black, white, purple or green"… Ooh hold on now: Purple or Green? You gotta draw the line somewhere! To hell with purple people! - Unless they’re suffocating - then help’em.”
Mitch Hedberg - Just for Laughs 2002
I just posted this cause any chance to promote more Mitch Hedberg is always a good idea.
Could also have argyria from silver poisoning. Cant believe you just profiled all blue people as hypoxic 😔
Nah. If you’re blue, you’re part of a musical group.
Or from a specific place in I believe it’s kentucky
I’m blue, but if I was green I would die
If I OD’d, I would die
Imma pee on a guyA slab of cheese on some rye
Japanese in Dubai
I’m a critically white guy who grew up in white suburbs and remember Sesame Street teaching me as a kid to not do racism. I was entirely on board with the whole America is a plurality thing, and it took me a while to figure out that most of my society is totally not going to play along.
In the aughts, my flatmate was Taíno/Puerto-Rican and we had a lot of conversations about systemic racism in the US. But my awareness of US racism really got going after the killing of Michael Brown in 2014 and the Ferguson unrest, during which there were independent press on the ground streaming video directly to the internet (that is, not being filtered by news agencies), and the brutal fuckery that was being pulled by the police. Also the worst trigger discipline I’d ever seen in my life.
It turns out that police, nationwide, really hate black people. More so than other non-whites, poor people, LGBT+ and protestors. (However, I am told, they hate native Americans even worse.)
After Ferguson, news agencies, for the first time, started tracking officer-involved homicide. See FBI was supposed to be tracking whenever a law enforcement officer (of any department) killed someone, and reporting their findings every year to BJS. It was a congressional order from the 1970s, and the Bureau just said nah. Until Ferguson in 2014, volunteer organizations watched for obituaries and news for when a police officer offed someone, those trackers didn’t get them all. We still don’t.
In 2015, officer-involved violence killed about four people a day, and that’s a guess. Precinct coroners routinely cover up for their brethren when a death can be interpreted as something else. The high-end estimation is about 75% of such deaths fall through the cracks, undetected and unreported.
Of course, blacks are disproportionately represented in officer-involved slayings. Of note, Philando Castile was pulled over at least forty-nine times in the thirteen years leading up to his execution by law enforcement in 2016.
Much of the shit ICE is doing now is not new. It’s just much more visible now. But there’s been precedent for a long time. Heck the DEA is essentially a paramilitary force to harass black neighborhoods.
And that was all before Trump got elected and he collectively gave Americans permission to be openly racist again. Now it’s all cranked up to eleven.
Stephen Miller really wants to dispose of all the non-whites. That’s what the ICE project really is about. (He also wants to put disabled people into institutions. That how the face-eating leopards come for my face in particular.)
The white Christian nationalists want to strip rights away from women and make them household appliances again. They also want to chase LGBT+ and non-Christians back in the closet. They’re also wary of Christians who don’t agree with their version of scripture.
Ranty Addendum: And as Corey Doctorow points out, the AI investment-buildout boom is largely fueled by a fantasy by the ownership class to just plumb get rid of workers, period, and replace us all with robots, occupation by occupation.
Peter Thiel and company already have plans for fancy highly developed automated cities where rich people can live in (alleged) paradise. Think Opportinity from Borderlands 2 or Rapture from Bioshock. They also have apocalypse bunkers where they can hide when things go south. (Those who don’t get killed off by their security contingent will instead go mad the way everyone did during the COVID-19 lockdown and sequester)
The ultra-wealthy (the 0.01% who look down on the 0.1%) don’t care where we migrate to, except they are looking to own all the land. While racism is a factor and distracts common folk from the class struggle, in the end it really is about class.
PS: I commented in the Ask Lemmy post on YouTube creators about Ashly B who does short form videos discussing black history in America. Stories about slavery, institutional racism and hate violence can get pretty graphic.
Yeppppp as Dr. Angela Davis says, in a racist society it’s not enough to merely not be racist, we must be anti racist.
Those who don’t get killed off by their security contingent will instead go mad the way everyone did during the COVID-19 lockdown and sequester
Implying they’re not utterly deranged already…
They certainly are, but mental disorders IRL can compound and interact. Billionaires already have been conditioned with extreme confirmation bias, to disregard other people (especially those below their stratum) and never to relinquish wealth and power at any cost, but now they’re going to be alone and isolated, and that entire system that once fed them and confirmed their self-importance will be gone.
Nah. I’ve definitely heard it from people who don’t care and people who care a lot. And also for being various types of not straight, for that matter.
Wasn’t there a U.K. anti discrimination campaign that said that but with an added “…or normal”?
Whole bunch of called out crackers in here.
Tag em
“I don’t care if you’re liberal, centrist, or a nazi” — someone still using twitter in 2026
Twitter approved ideologies:
- liberal ✅
- centrist ✅
- nazi ✅
- “libertarian” ✅
- neocon ✅
- communist ❌
- anarchist ❌
- leftist ❌
- libertarian ❌
- c*sgender ❌
cussgender
“What’s between your legs?” “None of your fucking business”
“what’s between your legs?”
- “both your parents, fighting over who goes first”A dick, cunt.
Damn, be careful you don’t impregnate yourself with all that hardware
Centrist*
*Actually far right
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Over half of the voting populace voted for this turd. Whether they like the monicker or not, they’re far right.
If telling them they’re far right just makes them cozy up harder to the people murdering minorities in the street, they were just looking for an excuse and that was just a convenience to do what they were going to do anyway.
I see the same shit locally. People legitimately say they’ll vote Republican before a DSA candidate, further proving that when you scratch a liberal/centrist, a fascist bleeds.
I appreciate the “libertarian” and libertarian being presented here. A distinction most people aren’t aware enough to make.
The funny thing is that the extreme right would claim the exact opposite.
The extreme right would claim up is down if they thought it would help them
I don’t think they need to think it will help them. Just that someone they don’t like said down is down
The funny thing is that the extreme right would claim the exact opposite.
They don’t care because while they are different, they all eventually lead to the same outcome :3
libs be maldn ur rep🤣
Yoooo that’s interesting haha
Neat site
There was a better one, that did Meta/Facebook like analytics, but I’ve long since lost the 🔗
I know my wife was in it, and celebrated the libs & fascists that blocked her.
How would someone who actually doesn’t care about race express they don’t care about race?
There’s an important distinction between not caring about race in the sense that you treat all people you encounter with equal consideration, and not caring about race in the sense that you disregard all racially based socio-economic concerns. A person flippantly expressing a lack of caring reeks of the latter.
I’m speaking specifically to the former.
You demonstrate by behaving accordingly. If you treat people equally, you shouldn’t need to tell people that you do.
Yep, white people have an incentive to claim we aren’t racists, our egos and social statuses generally benefit from these claims. Because of that we can’t be taken at our words on the topic. Only our actions can be trusted
One would hope that’s the case. It’s not always. I wouldn’t word it like the post. Typically it’s more so “one people, one love” or “we are all together” or something to that affect. Particularly if one is in a sensitive circumstance and where you stand on this subject is the question at hand.
It also says a lot when someone’s goal is for people to know you treat others equally. That may make them feel that you do it more because you want the social kuddos so to speak. If the behavior is for appearance more than for equal treatment of people, that’s also an ick. Just be authentically a good person and people will treat you accordingly. No good person goes around saying they’re a good person.
One would think. One must remember that racism at least on an interpersonal level isn’t one direction. In group theory systemic racism is typically from the dominant group towards the non-dominant group. In interpersonal racism anyone can be racist towards anyone anytime. All it takes is making positive or negative assumptions about someone based on their race. The situations I’ve found myself in is where someone was assuming something about me without knowing me just based on my race.
Nothing you say will ever reassure anyone that you aren’t a racist more than just not being a racist.
By shutting up and listening to minorities. By believing them when they share their experiences. By financially supporting efforts against racism, or attending protests. Simple “well I’m not personally racist” attitudes are worthless, because we live in a systemically racist society.
I hate racism and I stand with people of colour
Wouldn’t you stand with all people and not just people of colour?
it’s the same issue as the “black lives matter” / “all lives matter” distinction. On the surface, sure, “all lives matter” sounds more appealing because all lives do matter. But the point is that most people support white people, it’s the people of colour that you need to voice your support for, because they’re the ones being targeted with constant discrimination and racism.
I think back to the post about liking pancakes not meaning hating waffles. It sounds ridiculous but it’s very easy to fall into that mindset, especially in scenarios like this. “I stand with people of colour” doesn’t mean “I don’t stand with white people”, it just means “people of colour need my support more than white people do right now”.
If that sounds weird to you still, and you’d still rather say “I support everyone” that’s totally fair, but if you’re going to do that you need to be aware of the cultural meaning given to those kinds of phrases beyond what the literal words mean, as the type of people who say that sort of thing are usually saying it to delegitimize messages of support for marginalized groups, and so by saying it yourself you may end up being associated with those people as well.
Black Lives Matter is a bit like Save The Whales. It should be a given that you don’t want dolphins to be killed…
It should be but I’ve met my share of people who legitimately hate the “dolphins” and have views of them as lesser beings, demons, and all around just bad if only for their race.
Is it not a given you don’t want the whales killed or do you have to call them out specifically?
In the late 20th century, whaling drove some species of whale into endangered status, and some nations continued to poach whales even though there was international law against it.
According to Wikipedia whale hunting is still an business and a controversy.
Sadly, yes. Some whale populations were dangerously close to collapse partly/mainly (it’s debatable) due to human actions. A lot of other maritime species weren’t thriving but with whales it was dangerously different.
For the record we did also have “dolphin friendly tuna” so perhaps my analogy needs some work…
We’re assuming this is in the US or a western country? Racism isn’t the same everywhere. For instance in Kenya Somalians are treated very poorly and there’s a lot of racism towards them by Kenyan natives but both are people of colour. Similarly there’s a lot of hate and resentment between Kikuyu and Luo and they will know one another easily by how they look aka their ethnicity and it’s essentially racism again but both are people of colour. Similarly a Chinese person in Japan will likely face tremendous racism yet both are people of colour. Who exactly are we standing with?
Yes sorry, I did assume a western context, that’s my bad. I’ve only ever lived in Canada so I’m not too knowledgeable on progressive movements outside of the west. I would imagine though that the best course of action would be to state your alliance with those marginalized ethnicities in those cultures. For example, if you live in Kenya and want to see Somalians treated equally there then you should express your support for the Somalians, because not expressing that support will cause others to assume you hold the culturally “default” position, which in the case of widespread discrimination would likely mean they would assume you are anti-Somalian.
Basically all I mean is that if you want to show that you don’t care about race or ethnicity then show support for whatever group needs it the most in your community. By doing so you’re showing that you’re willing to accept those groups even though they aren’t identical to you. Sure that might seem like you absolutely do care about race, since you’re supporting those groups on basis of who they are, but a truly “neutral” position doesn’t exist in situations like this, as choosing not to say anything at all is showing that you’re okay with whatever the current dominant ideology is.
I think I tend to take more of an interpersonal approach than a group approach towards life. Group theory is a perception of society but it isn’t the only one. Generally speaking i want equitable treatment for all people regardless of the groups they happen to belong to. That’s to say I’m more individual focused than group focused. Just because someone is in a group doesn’t mean they specifically have faced any hardships in relationships to that group. In many and arguably in any country the determining factor is wealth and the power of one’s social networks. Like an individual in Kenya can most definitely avoid any issues whatsoever with their race if they are wealthy and powerful enough. I couldn’t say just because they are Somalian that they suffered the same prejudice that a poor Somalian in Kenya has. Group theory though does have a place when one is talking about statistics aka large amounts of people who share a group more so than an individual. Both perception are right and neither is wrong for the other being right.
I didn’t say I “just” stand with people of colour, did I? Now, considering how many people at worst don’t consider people of colour to be people, or at best, just have a white-centric bias and don’t think of people of colour very often when they hear “all people”, the specific callout is very necessary. I specifically stand with people of colour, in addition to all the people who you would presumably expect Me to stand with due to being part of society.
I mean which country are we speaking of? It doesn’t make sense as a statement depending on where one is. For instance Somalians who have become refugees in Kenya are treated very poorly and there’s a lot of racism and prejudice towards them by Kenyan natives. Both are people of colour so who exactly am I standing with if I were to say I stand with people of colour? If I’m in Japan and I see a Chinese man being treated poorly just for his race then who am I standing with as both sides are people of colour. It’s a statement that assumes a particular dynamic and that may not be the dynamic that is in front of us.
Sure. But we’re speaking English, and in all majority English countries, white is privileged.
I was going to say Liberia exists but honestly you probably would get preferential treatment from assumptions about the economic part of socioeconomic.
Are you sure about that? I can tell you first hand it can be a serious detriment or even dangerous to be white in some English speaking countries.
Oh, you’re a trash person that’s lying, that makes sense.
I hear that all the time from right wing snowflakes crying about not getting preferential treatment, so pardon me if I call bullshit.
I stand with people of colour
Wouldn’t you stand with all people and not just people of colour?
Naw, because if you say you stand with white people, that same person will say you are racist.
The difference is that white people practically never face difficulties that are related to the color of their skin, there would therefore not be any reason to “stand with white people” except one motivated by racism.
Just as the other guy argues, nobody said anything about only standing with white people, you can assume one stands for people of all races with the statement.
Depends entirely if you are in a country of mostly white people.
Saying “I stand with the majority” comes off a lot like “fuck minorities”. While saying you “stand with the minorities”, doesn’t imply the same back since the majority isn’t at risk of being forgotten.
You can say you stand with white people, if you live somewhere central Africa. Since they are not a majority there and thus could use the support. The majority don’t need the support because they are the majority.
Isn’t that statement like ironically kind of racist? You’re judging the behavior of like a billion people just by the colour of their skin.
“I’m racist in all of the ways in which I have not yet had the opportunity to confront my perceptions”?
I’m having a difficult time parsing this sentence. Could you expand on it further please.
I usually say “I’m talking about a systemic issue, not you personally.” Because you should care in general - we live in a racist society and can’t opt out of context.
Separating the societal circumstance from the individual circumstance seems really important for this discussion but ideally the same person who is uncomfortable with systemic racism is equally uncomfortable with interpersonal racism.
Why equally uncomfortable?
Both are bad? I guess it depends how utilitarian you are.
You know when it comes to racism, people say: " I don’t care if they’re black, white, purple or green"… Ooh hold on now: Purple or Green? You gotta draw the line somewhere! To hell with purple people! - Unless they’re suffocating - then help’em.
- Mitch Hedberg
I would be pretty concerned if you’re green.
I would care if you’re purple, would be ready to do the Heimlich
Nah.
Everybody’s talkin’ something very shocking
Just to keep on blockin’ what they’re feelin’ inside
But listen to me brother, you just keep on walkin’
'Cause you and me and sister ain’t got nothing to hide
Scatman, fat man, black and white and brown man
Tell me 'bout the color of your soul
If part of your solution isn’t ending the pollution
Then I don’t wanna hear your stories told
I wanna welcome you to Scatman’s WorldI like Scatman’s version
I wanna be a human being, not a human doing
Even as a white guy, I hear it plainly.
