I’m so bummed about Rowling. I loved those books so much growing up. Its such a shame the person who put such whimsy and magic in the world has gotta spew that hate. RIP Harry, a wizard no more
If it makes you feel any better (and sorry if it does the opposite), she sort of plagiarised from earlier series including The Worst Witch and The Adventures of Willy the Wizard. Kinda all of it, including the premise (magical vs ‘normal’ kids called to a magical school, houses, many of the spells and plots, etc. so much so that the latter sued her over it (that author lost, because it wasn’t a word-for-word lift).
If you like the genre, I’d recommend reading those series instead now.
Spew hate, fund hate, systemically implement hate and violence, politically platform and fund hate, and do horrific disgusting acts to individuals all the time.
Jkr is evil. Not a trash person, not a politically polarizing person, not just an outspoken person I disagree with. But an actual. Evil. Fucking. Human.
I’m pretty sure that the examples I’m remembering are from a video essay on youtube which I don’t expect anyone to go and watch if they wouldn’t be interested in spending time that way anyway. But I found it interesting.
People who are overweight, except molly weasley because we like her, she’s in our group
Stuff about house elves, goblins, professor trewlany, Rowling tends to decide if a person is good or bad, and then their actions are viewed in that lens, with good and bad often indicated by group membership, like what house you are in, who’s your blood ancestor,…
I mean, personally I agree the magic system is lazy and the world is nonsensical, but “good” is more subjective than that. I disliked the books and never even finished the series, it tool YEARS before I even read 5&6, and I don’t think I’ve seen past the 3rd movie. Except meme clips anyway.
But if someone else wants to lament how something they liked is tied to a bigot, let them lament in peace.
Yeah, I too personally never really cared for them. Like, they were OK, I read the first 3 books and yeah, it was a story but I never really got into this “world of wonder and whimsy” stuff. I read the rest of the books as they got released just to finish the story and I don’t think I saw any in the cinema.
But that was me, one of my closer friends at school though was utterly obsessed. They purchased all the merchandise, watched all the films in the cinema, multiple times, read all the fanfiction (and the naughty fanfiction…), played the games etc. etc.
So yeah, I agree that for me I, never really cared about it, it meant nothing more to me than any one of the number of kids books I read. But for others it did form so much of their childhood, it was important. From writing their own fanfiction to drawing art or programming games, I’m sure a lot of people have had it influence their adult life really heavily and, especially those who don’t quite understand the level of harm she is doing and maybe don’t even know anyone personally who is being harmed, this could seem like a real attack on their childhood, we should be able to recognise that and treat that with compassion rather than say the books are crap and you are an evil person for still liking them, which will only serve to harden them.
You’re allowed to like horrible things made by horrible people! There’s a rice dish my mom used to make that’s kind of my not-quite-comfort food. I just wouldn’t recommend it. Its trash. And when I make it, I don’t even burn it every time.
Harry Potter is trash. It’s not the worst thing ever, but it’s not worth your time. Anyone’s time, really.
I’m not defending Harry Potter, I don’t even like it myself, but Christ that first sentence rubs me the wrong way. Maybe things can be subjective and not every art piece is just “good” or “bad” in the end. There’s no reason to be so passive aggressive and belittling in your response here.
Its morally horrible technically uninteresting creatively uninspired. Sorry, I’ll be more nuanced in my broad thesis statements rather than the main body of my comments. I forget sometimes people only read headlines.
No like… There’s subjective stuff about what food is good. Is the best food curry? A perfectly grown raw strawberry? Caesar salad? Expresso gelato? Engineered hypernutritious silicon valley bodybuilder slop? but like… Harry Potter is a gas station burrito with some popcorn ceiling sprinkled on top, rolled in the author’s opinions.
I can pirate and indulge in my inner child from time to time knowing that cast and crew created lifetime bonds and had that experience with us - the fans.
Rowling? There aren’t enough buses on earth to toss her under.
I’m so bummed about Rowling. I loved those books so much growing up. Its such a shame the person who put such whimsy and magic in the world has gotta spew that hate. RIP Harry, a wizard no more
If it makes you feel any better (and sorry if it does the opposite), she sort of plagiarised from earlier series including The Worst Witch and The Adventures of Willy the Wizard. Kinda all of it, including the premise (magical vs ‘normal’ kids called to a magical school, houses, many of the spells and plots, etc. so much so that the latter sued her over it (that author lost, because it wasn’t a word-for-word lift).
If you like the genre, I’d recommend reading those series instead now.
Spew hate, fund hate, systemically implement hate and violence, politically platform and fund hate, and do horrific disgusting acts to individuals all the time.
Jkr is evil. Not a trash person, not a politically polarizing person, not just an outspoken person I disagree with. But an actual. Evil. Fucking. Human.
It’s strange to me how they wrote a book about how muggles are oppressed, then they turn around and become Voldemort IRL
From the very beginning she makes it clear which muggles are “good”, and which are not, and thus are ok to do violence to. Same with other groups.
Yeah, Hagrid performs body modification surgery on an 11 year old boy because he stole a cake. This is presented by the story as just deserts.
I mean, as a kid there were definitely some people in my life I felt would deserve to have a pig tail
Hopefully your ethics are a bit more developed now
As an adult, i would hope one could tell the difference between a child’s imagination and reality.
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The Dursleys? They’re tories, pretty sure a lot of people here wouldn’t mind punching a tory.
This is the exact kind of simplification that I’m talking about.
What do you mean? I don’t remember anything like that. There were jerk muggles yes, but also jerk wizard and witches
I’m pretty sure that the examples I’m remembering are from a video essay on youtube which I don’t expect anyone to go and watch if they wouldn’t be interested in spending time that way anyway. But I found it interesting.
Shaun - Harry Potter. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-1iaJWSwUZs
People who are overweight, except molly weasley because we like her, she’s in our group
Stuff about house elves, goblins, professor trewlany, Rowling tends to decide if a person is good or bad, and then their actions are viewed in that lens, with good and bad often indicated by group membership, like what house you are in, who’s your blood ancestor,…
They’re not that whimsical and the magic is kind of stupid. As in its not good magic and the world isn’t coherently built around it.
They’re not even good.
I mean, personally I agree the magic system is lazy and the world is nonsensical, but “good” is more subjective than that. I disliked the books and never even finished the series, it tool YEARS before I even read 5&6, and I don’t think I’ve seen past the 3rd movie. Except meme clips anyway.
But if someone else wants to lament how something they liked is tied to a bigot, let them lament in peace.
Yeah, I too personally never really cared for them. Like, they were OK, I read the first 3 books and yeah, it was a story but I never really got into this “world of wonder and whimsy” stuff. I read the rest of the books as they got released just to finish the story and I don’t think I saw any in the cinema.
But that was me, one of my closer friends at school though was utterly obsessed. They purchased all the merchandise, watched all the films in the cinema, multiple times, read all the fanfiction (and the naughty fanfiction…), played the games etc. etc.
So yeah, I agree that for me I, never really cared about it, it meant nothing more to me than any one of the number of kids books I read. But for others it did form so much of their childhood, it was important. From writing their own fanfiction to drawing art or programming games, I’m sure a lot of people have had it influence their adult life really heavily and, especially those who don’t quite understand the level of harm she is doing and maybe don’t even know anyone personally who is being harmed, this could seem like a real attack on their childhood, we should be able to recognise that and treat that with compassion rather than say the books are crap and you are an evil person for still liking them, which will only serve to harden them.
You’re allowed to like horrible things made by horrible people! There’s a rice dish my mom used to make that’s kind of my not-quite-comfort food. I just wouldn’t recommend it. Its trash. And when I make it, I don’t even burn it every time.
Harry Potter is trash. It’s not the worst thing ever, but it’s not worth your time. Anyone’s time, really.
I’m not defending Harry Potter, I don’t even like it myself, but Christ that first sentence rubs me the wrong way. Maybe things can be subjective and not every art piece is just “good” or “bad” in the end. There’s no reason to be so passive aggressive and belittling in your response here.
Its morally horrible technically uninteresting creatively uninspired. Sorry, I’ll be more nuanced in my broad thesis statements rather than the main body of my comments. I forget sometimes people only read headlines.
No like… There’s subjective stuff about what food is good. Is the best food curry? A perfectly grown raw strawberry? Caesar salad? Expresso gelato? Engineered hypernutritious silicon valley bodybuilder slop? but like… Harry Potter is a gas station burrito with some popcorn ceiling sprinkled on top, rolled in the author’s opinions.
Ah, the heaviest artillery of art criticism: food comparisons.
You can’t exactly call it art except in the broadest sense that choosing to splatter shit over one part of the toilet bowl instead of another is art.
I can pirate and indulge in my inner child from time to time knowing that cast and crew created lifetime bonds and had that experience with us - the fans.
Rowling? There aren’t enough buses on earth to toss her under.