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      I’m not disagreeing with the point of your statement, but I do want to clarify that vaginas absolutely stretch, just not permanently. You’ll have a very different experience if you work up to fisting over a couple of hours vs. launching right into it, because vaginas loosen with arousal.

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        The important thing is that they are elastic - they don’t stay stretched. They’re not like sweaters that stay stretched out forever after someone large wears them, more like rubber bands that stretch temporarily before returning to their typical size. I think that’s why OP used the term “stretch out,” as too many people seem to think once a vagina stretches, it’s a permanent change. It’s such a weird misconception.

        Giving birth stretches a vagina more than any penis (or fist) ever could. Though birth can make some changes that last, it’s more like “Now I need a larger size menstrual cup” than “Now penises just slide back out,” as the popular belief would have people believe.

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          Yeah I was gonna mention the menstrual cup thing. The fact that they perceive the vagina as a purely receptive sleeve also suggests that they’ve rarely if ever had a woman orgasm on their dick. Hubs reports varying perceptibility between different episodes but that the muscular contraction is often robust.

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      I don’t think people caring about body count has anything to do with physical things other than drastically increased odds of STIs and certain cancers.

      I think mature adults realize that sex is never just sex, it forms attachments whether you want it or not. Screwing around forming and cutting off attachments constantly kind of fucks with your capacity to emotionally invest in an actual relationship.

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        Yeah, it’s more about the fact that it’s really reckless behavior for tons of reasons for me. I don’t need someone like that in my life. Literally every really promiscuous person I know is living a train wreck of a life. Most of them are pretty shitty people otherwise too. Some of them have grown out of it, but with that they became more stable in their relationships and aren’t sleeping around like they used to. I’m not saying it’s impossible to sleep around and not have tons of issues but I haven’t witnessed it so to me it’s a red flag.

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        If your brain one days goes like ‘I should fuck a thousand guys’ and you don’t immediately shut it down, there’s something terribly wrong with you, and that’s before accounting for the STI you are absolutely carrying.

        Now. Clearly some incels have an irrational low idea of what a ‘normal’ bodycount should be, but 1000 in one day ain’t it either.

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        Not everyone does form those attatchemnts. There are plenty of poeole out there who can just have sex and have a good time and move on.

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        i think the way you’re describing the process as “screwing around, forming and cutting off attachments” really shows that you think of it in a very black and white sort of way. one can have casual / fwb sex with their friends, and still have a friend relationship with that person. one can even have one-off sex with an acquaintance or stranger, and even if you never meet again, it doesn’t really make it a “cut off” relationship; if you met again, it would be pleasant, circumstances just may not arrange it

        just because it’s a more emotionally involved process for you or some people you’ve encountered, doesn’t make it a universal truth

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          Sure, you CAN do these things. That doesn’t mean it’s not diminishing your capacity to be emotionally invested in your relationships.

          We can spend all day blowharding and traversing all the layers of subconscious processes abstracted into social constructs, how we are able to rationalize anything if we want to, and so on. But I think you can only get so far with that, when all I’m trying to describe is something pretty much everyone already understands intuitively.

          “You can’t turn a hoe into a housewife”

          Works with gender/role flipped too, obviously.

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            i genuinely do not “intuitively understand” this idea. there’s nothing contradictory about being a hoe and a housewife

            can you like, explain this? i really don’t understand how having multiple sexual relationships, specifically, diminishes one’s ability to have emotionally fulfilling relationships. if anything, i might be inclined to think they would have more emotionally fulfilling relationships 💀

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      If they don’t stretch out, then why do some doctors offer complimentary tightening surgery on postpartum mothers?

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        Ouch. That is so fucked up. I am older and have been structurally tight (skin too tight at opening) sex hurts when it goes on too long. The “husband stitch” is abusive. And doctors do it because they do episiotomy, which is also awful because that cut doesn’t heal as well as a repaired natural tear and you might not tear at all.

        Complimentary tightening surgery my ass. That doesn’t help mothers at all.

        Rehab with kegels does help and obviously if you tear, a repair. The midwife recommended working up to fisting before having a baby and man I wish I had taken that advice.

        But being tight right at the opening of the vagina just hurts, there is no advantage to it.

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        They don’t stretch out from having a dick put in them. But giving birth is literally a physically traumatic event. Ligiments get slack so bones can shift around, and it is not uncommon for the flesh around the vagina to experience significant tearing. The whole thing is quite horrifying. Post pregnancy medical procedures may be necessary not just to have a tight pussy, but to be able to not constantly be peeing yourself.

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          Yeah go make any mom laugh they will tell you they’re gonna pee their pants

          Source: milfs

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          litigation

          🤣

          What’s sexist about perpetuating the idea that vaginas do or don’t stretch out? Or what’s sexist about doctors offering to tighten up stretched vaginas? Please explain.

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            It’s called “the husband stitch” becase because it was done for the husbands pleasure, not for the wife’s medical needs, often without the wife’s consent. It also might cause sex to be more painful for the woman, even as it was more pleasurable for the man; which is too bad for the woman, because her husband had a legal right to rape her in the United States until the 1970s.

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            The only thing dumber than your comments is the Piefed decision to replace the downvote button with an emoji button that doesn’t load until just before I try to click the close button.

            Sexist men tell women they have loose vaginas to try and shame them for their sex organs. Arguing it’s true is also sexist.

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            I don’t think you know what you’re talking about or your fellow downvoters. I read that in a reputable publication over well about three decades back and I take their word over some naysayer online with no backup information or sources.

            Not only that but I’ve had women tell me it’s true that vinegar cleans smells and tightens the area. You are not a reputable source.

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                I read this in the late 90s. And I’m still siding with them over some bandwagon jumper on her off the fucking internets. You’re not a reliable source. Someone else said something that sounded authoritative so perhaps nevertheless.

                Also I don’t give a shit. I was just sharing what I read from an authoritative source, you can piss all the way off.

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              Youre not right about this. Im sorry. Some women do douche, but most doctors will advise against using anything like this. Mild soap externally is all that is recomended by most Obgyns.

              This info you have is old wives tales, not modern science.