As I was saying on another thread, this current fuckery dates back to the Business Roundtable of 1971, big business huddled up and made a game plan to seize control. They got their asses kicked out of power from FDR and kept losing. Project 2025 is just the newer iteration of that game plan. Part of that plan clearly is to keep us disunited and destroy any competing organizations, and or take control of them secretly like with our opposition political party, not much of a secret to many of us I know.

The only answer is to organize, and to do that we need new social media, that we control. Like the fediverse, but set up better. But we needed it 20 years ago. Next best time is now.

People will call the cops on clowns they spot on the street, and cops respond. I kid you not, at least in some places.

While there may be some truth in that, I don’t think it’s accurate to say it’s always been there as such, in fact I believe it didn’t really start in it’s current form until 1971 or so, by design, although it existed before as it does elsewhere, that was the turning point, where big business huddled up and made a long game to seize power, project 2025 is just the recent iteration of that game plan, formed initially by the Business Roundtable.

I think the situation would be more akin to Theodin under the sway of wormtongue asking for help. You know, becaue the president is a piece of shit, while the king of gondor was not. Obviously though theodin was good he was just manipulated, so that doesn’t really work either completely.

The culture was fucked long before no child left behind to be fair. Anti intellectualism was rampant, since before most of us were born, gangster culture and drug prohibition and The Fear made a solid percent of the population criminals and authorized a police state.

City schools are better now than they were in the 80s and 90s, things got real bad in the crime waves.

The one I went to some late 20 year old rich kid did a presentation in an empty office, just chairs and like a table, for maybe a dozen or so of us, showed the knife cutting a penny in half, like that’s an impressive thing, they are zinc now and only copper coated, and both metals are softer than steel.

I pointed out it was a federal crime to destroy money.

Holy shit, I never noticed that but you are right. Idk though many are calvinists, idk if they are all evangelical, but they are pretty much the same really.

Vector is a pyramid scheme. What kind of, uh, person, gets suckered into this “interview” like I did, and pays them to sell their overpriced bullshit?

The epstein thing did start after that, that is true, in the 90s, just when these cases were unravelling.

Febrile huh? I have no idea wtf you are talking about. But the Satanic Panic started in CA in the 80s, along with a push to disempower judges for prosecutors, as prosecutors for both parties were seized by the aristocracy. They, along with a psychiatrist quack, took allegations of child rape from a crazy person, grabbed these little kids, like 6 years old or something, and browbeat them for days, weeks telling them they know they were abused, you are suprressing it, until they could get them to accuse their parents (some refused.)

It’s a long story, but the practice was exported nationwide, and hundreds of false convictions for baby rape were had, which they expanded to include devil worship. All bad faith. They would do a raid and bring news cameras and props with them. Set up dildos and bdsm gear, satanic and torture stuff, then bring the news cameras in like they found it that way. Prosecutors’ allegations would also just not be possible, claiming big satanic abuse parties in little houses that couldn’t fit them, etc.

The cases fell apart in the 90s, with the kids denouncing the police and their false allegations. Even then prosecutors fought to keep them in prison. Some in the original places they started, bakersfield, the heart of darkness in the central valley, misfiling cases so do gooder lawyers couldn’t challenge their convictions. Bakersfield is notorious for framing people for murder too by the way.

Source: “Mean Justice” a book by a pullitzer prize winning author.

While I am skeptical about these kind of allegations due to the satanic panic in the US in the 80s and 90s, with epstein it looks like it was all projection. It’s always projection, all of it.

But what bears repeating, and acknowledging, is: ‘Social media platforms and search engines appeared to remove or downrank posts, leading to speculation about deliberate censorship’ as some people will take an article not being findable on search engines for it’s lack of existence or lack of credibility.

What fucking world do they live in that google is the arbiter of knowledge and truth?

Europe is trying to surrender their citizens to tech, make no mistake.

I could be, but I’m not.

Reported in the Guardian, and other publications, no, it’s not misinformation. How convenient everything that makes Israel look bad disappears from search results and is labeled misinformation by people that trust search engines.

I can get back to you, mass graves of people with organs cut out was reported in the guardian originally, and the intercept. And it’s not going to be conclusive, what we know is they cut organs out of people they executed, not just here but elsewhere. Anyone paying attention knows their mind n this, same as anyone paying attention would have known the NSA was grabbing every piece of data they could get their grasping hands on pre snowden revelations. Who is going to stop them?

But I can try to find the links later, as I said, the search engines don’t work anymore, they don’t even try to return what I ask for anymore, I type the intercept in quotation marks and it gives me zero intercept articles. Or the guardian and it will give me an obviously wrong gaurdian article. Search engines aren’t the arbiters of truth, we better hope not.

I know it’s a joke, but for the record, the Ottomans never conquered Iran despite being at war with them for like three centuries. Iran ended with some of mesopatamia, land to the Caucuses, while the ottomans established control of all of Asia Minor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman–Persian_Wars 'The Ottoman–Persian Wars also called the Ottoman–Iranian Wars were a series of wars between the Ottoman Empire and the Safavid, Afsharid, Zand, and Qajar states of Iran (Persia) through the 16th–19th centuries. The Ottomans consolidated their control of what is today Turkey in the 15th century, and gradually came into conflict with the emerging neighboring Iranian state, led by Ismail I of the Safavid dynasty. The two states were arch rivals, and were also divided by religious grounds, the Ottomans being staunchly Sunni and the Safavids being Shia. A series of military conflicts ensued for centuries during which the two empires competed for control over eastern Anatolia, the Caucasus, and Ottoman Iraq. ’

Which part? The chinese harvesting organs out of executed criminals was reported in the Times and elsewhere 2001 and thereabouts multiple times.

The palestinian thing, there were those medical workers found in the mass grave with their hands bound, executed, some tortured, with organs cut out. 20 of them or so, as I recall, a year or so back, and there were other incidents. I’m looking for a link startpage is not providing it, or a number of other links it used to before the the enshitification, Double duck has some links, I haven’t vetted them, but should cover some of the allegations. https://www.thecanary.co/global/world-analysis/2025/11/06/gaza-organ-theft-even-in-death-palestinians-are-not-free-from-occupation/

They absolutely are harvesting organs of some of their victims I am certain, probably selling them to rich pricks in the US that go in for off the books operations.

The Hormel Strike in 1984 or whatever it was, where they basically broke the unions in meatpacking, and apparently the corrupt parent union refused to support the strikers, then dissolved their membership sending their union into receivership and tanking their over year long strike, has turned meatpacking into a middle class job to wage slavery. These are not fun jobs, not safe jobs, they are treated like shit, now they get paid badly too.

Most all the beef is packaged by three companies, same with pork and chicken, this strike is the biggest of them, JBL, a brazillian firm, actually under investigation or charges for corruption in bribing brazilian officials to expand their US expansion.

Oh yeah this could make that more feasible. A lot more feasible as it takes way less electricity and material.

Off subject but they found dangling a long cable into the atmosphere from low orbit or whatever they could generate a lot of electricity, the cable broke off after a while though when they tried it.