This is my third time to the office. Im waiting for the Doctor to come in and whie waiting in the examination room, I spot this. I start flipping through it, and I am getting upset.
I wait for the doctor to come in. I immeditely ask him, hey what it this? why is it here? He blew me off and just said “oh its just an opinion piece” and I said, yeah, but who put it here, do you believe in this? And he just shrugged. I said, Im leaving, that is so wierd, thats weird to have in a doctors office. And I left. Ill never go back to that place.
I need a doctor who believes in science. You wanna be christain thats fine, but this literally says,for christain nationalism. gross.
Putnam CT, USA if anyone is curious. I want to post the photo in google maps reviews, but I am afraid to, even with my google account being a burner. Yes, it’s the red pocket of an overall blue state, but, I just, was not expecting to see this.
Bravo for accepting the inconvenience of actually leaving and making the statement.
In aggregate, it changes things from the bottom up.
I did appreciate the doctors deafeated expression he wore apon his face and I walked out.
If he denounced it, or explained something…maybe… but, he blew off my concern and shrugged. No. Plenty of other doctors around, I was driving pretty far anyway.
Lol. Maybe this wasn’t the first time.
Yeah, because despite it all, I am still open to and sympathetic to folks who genuinely have just been duped somehow. It definitely gets harder and harder to buy that folks are oblivious the more time that goes on, but I’m never gonna make the mistake of pushing someone back into the fascists’ arms because they think I’m not willing to accept them.
Love this
Name and shame
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Dude did you not check their ratings before you went? 3.1 is a major red flag.
Another hint is look for “LGBTQ+ Friendly” in the listing. That’s the easiest way to determine whether or not a doctor believes in science.
So, most of the reviews are for the only brown lady in the place. She was lovely with me, this is a racist area, so…I ignored them. I did notice she had a cross on her neck, but thought not much of it. Until today, I saw some dude, O’neil. Idk who’s room it was, but either way…
learned my lesson, both you and my husband are right lol
Ooh that’s a good point; I didn’t factor in that the general bigotry of the local community would play a factor in ratings… Not really an issue when you live in the city.
But yeah the “LGBTQ+ Friendly” label is very helpful for finding businesses that are progressive and treat people like human beings.
Sucks that you’re stuck in an area full of bigots…try to leave when it becomes affordable/convenient.
or gender neutral bathrooms.
Is it strange that in my point of view as an European, it’s weird as fuck that a doctor (or anything) has an “LGBTQ+ Friendly” tag?
That literally should not be a thing - every single doctor out there shouldn’t at all care about their patient’s sexual orientation and if they do care, leave it at home and act like fucking professionals at work.
I mean, I can see some specialities having doctors signal that they’re experience with things related to gender transition, but beyond that, doctors as medical professionals have a professional duty to treat everybody the same independently of sexual orientation (and race, gender, religious beliefs, nationality and so on).
Further, doctors practicing Descrimination on their patients should be struck down as medical practicioners.
Isn’t there something like a Medical Order in the US? What kind of fucked up medical training system you have over there?
I’ve seen it mentioned for behavioral health places, and it makes sense to me in that case. If you’re going to be seeing a psychiatrist, or going into rehab, you’re probably gonna want to be sure that they’re not bigots
I can understand it if you want a therapist who is familiar with helping you through gender dysphoria. That experience in navigating those complex emotions would be useful.
Otherwise, I hate how in this shithole of a country doctors put their own religion and prejudices before their patients and the patients well being.
I have always interpreted that kind of tag as basically stating “we’re not bigots and we don’t send profits to bigoted political candidates in the community” more so than anything related to the business or practice specifically.
It’s a Google Maps feature, not a doctor thing. Does that feature not exist in Europe?
I’m from the area and we always called it Dey Killem, because if you had a heart attack, you were better off trying to make it to Manchester hospital.
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Funny, when i search for this clinic, it has only 1.5 of 5 stars on Google
that explains alot, bet the yelp said he was wierd.
Note how there is a piece highlighted on the cover against Notre Dame, a Catholic university. It isn’t simply being Christian that these people want.
No shit.
Christianity, Judaism, and Islam all worship the same God, and often respect each other’s important figures as at least prophets.
If one of the three ever “won” and replaced the other two, the very next act would be going after a minor branch of their own religion.
The details they squabble over are already super minor, and basically come down to speaking different languages.
It doesn’t have anything to do with religion, it’s the power structure and people abusing others faith to convince them to do horrible shit.
It has everything to do with religion. without these made up stories, not a single justification would be left for all the shit these people have done over the years. zero.
If it wasn’t religion, they’d exploit something else.
You still think the people in charge of these movements actually give a fuck about the movement.
They’re just looking for a way to manipulate people. Religion might be the most common right now, but there’s other options that work just as well.
not a single justification would be left for all the shit these people have done over the years.
Do you not know what racism is?
The justification doesn’t matter because it’s always bullshit. Getting rid of the justification doesn’t solve the problem, it just replaced it with a different justification.
What you’re advocating for is perpetual whack a mole that doesn’t solve anything.
If it wasn’t religion, they’d exploit something else.
It’s gonna be harder to exploit something that is not based on “trust me bro”. Exploit what? Science? Fine. Reason? Ok.
Religion is THE tool for exploitation. You can lie to yourself, and that’s what you’ve been trained for (Yes, I assume you are at least somewhat religious. Only religious people defend religion).
Do you not know what racism is?
I do. And its origins are deeply rooted in religion. Lots of litterature about that.
So I’m not saying it’s a magical bullet. But if we stop teaching people shit like “faith”, we may have fucking chance of making it. Religions are not defendable anymore, it’s a cancer, and it must be abolished.
I do not respect religion.
It’s gonna be harder to exploit something that is based on anything other than “trust me bro”.
I legitimately can’t tell if that’s a typo or a real opinion…
But either way, I can’t see this being productive.
Just so you’re aware, most of the Nazi ideology is based in a form of science and reason, yet it spread hate like nothing else. Eugenics is a way to use science to to fuel hate towards people for whatever characteristics you choose. Science is not immune to this abuse. Sure, it’s not as common as religion, but it’s something we will always have to look out for. Don’t think you’re immune because you don’t follow a religion. That’s how you end up believing this other shit that tells you you’re better than others.
eugenics is not science. it’s trash. pretending you do science to impose religious thinking on people is not science. It’s religion however you call it.
Do you understand that they are saying the “trust me bro” is going to come from somewhere else, if not religion? Elon Musk and his claims over the years are a great example.
I highly recommend you give the South Park episode “Go God Go” a watch. It’s pretty funny.
Elon musk fandom is religious. It’s full blown religious thinking. That is exactly my point.
Fascist will use whatever rhetoric, belief, religion, creed, etc to their advantage. It is about power and manipulation.
Having said that religion, particularly Abrahamic ones, are complete garbage with or without fascism.
Modern day racism in the US traces it roots back to Christianity. There is no denying this. It is a garbage religion used to create servitude and slavery.
Interestingly, the magazine’s editor (who’s credited for the “For Christian Nationalism” article), is listed as Catholic in the magazine’s Wikipedia page.
First Things is a “Catholic” mag. but they’re generally considered on the far right of the spectrum. Hated Pope Francis, think Notre Dame is a liberal haven, etc.
just once I wish the catholics would bring back old school punishments for members of their religion who reject the pope.
Oh I’m an idiot. I thought they were mad at the cathedral.
“I like cathedrals that don’t burn down.”
or the COLLEGE.
Using the term nationalism like it’s a good thing. Holy shit Batman.
One thing that’s not a dog whistle; they openly admit to being Christian Nationalists.
Seems a lot of the right wing “dog whistles” are more of an air raid siren. They don’t need to be subtle - a horrifying number of people build their whole identity around things like racism and religious superiority. The louder the whistle, the more support they drum up from those evil shits.
There are no Dog Whistles any more. That was when being a treasonous racist pedophile was something you weren’t proud of and wasn’t socially acceptable, so you had to communicate with your douchebag buddies under the radar.
MAGA Has given them permission to let their Traitor flag fly, and they are too stupid to understand that this won’t last forever, and the punishment will be a bitch, so they are demonstrating to the world just how ugly they are. At least when this is all over, we will have no doubts as to where the problems are. They’ve made it easy to improve society with a little thinning of the herd.
They’re typically used in real life situations, for example, when trying to figure out whether their coworkers are like-minded. Once they know they can get away with it, though … I have a few coworkers that will talk right-wing talking points practically non-stop. Another coworker and I have considered reporting them to HR, but all that would do is put a target on our backs; or at best, get them to silently hold a grudge against us. And it takes a lot more than office drama to get fired where I work.
Ooh ooh! Story time!
I have several severe mental illnesses. So of course I’m in therapy. My therapist sends me up to psychiatric help who tells me my cannabis use is ok, but only as long as it is actually helping mental health. My therapist did not like that. She gave me literal DARE propaganda to review. My wife was luckily with me when this happened. The printout was dated back to 2002. I told her that all the information in that packet (several pages) was outdated, factually incorrect, and literally propaganda for the war on drugs. We never went back to her. I spent time without a therapist until I found one that is actually helping me and doesn’t judge me based on one of several medications for my mental health.
Remember kids, your mental health is important
Good call. I applaud your courage confronting them about this and applaud you even more for having the conviction to drop them over it. It is extremely unprofessional allowing religion in the workplace to that degree, and “unprofessional” sure as hell isn’t something you want in your doctor.
So you mean your former doctor. Good. Fuck that wackadoo bastard.
When I moved to the rural South I discovered half the businesses have crosses in their logos or big bible verses on the building’s outer walls, and yes, doctors had Christian shit in waiting rooms. Well, sure as shit, it meant they were the ones who would cut a corner and mark up a bill at the end. Shake your hand and call you their brother. Just avoid, just get up and leave and stop going to that place. It’s a warning sign every time, and every time I wish I’d have listened to my gut when I do go in.
Well, sure as shit, it meant they were the ones who would cut a corner and mark up a bill at the end.
That sounds like Moral Licensing at work, especially when you consider the bible-thumper context. This is the same reason why food-service workers (table servers mostly) learn to fear the after-church lunch rush.
get a new doctor ASAP. Red fucking flag.
I was at a walk in clinic and perusing their pamphlets when I noticed some that were in a different style than the rest. They were by Focus on the Family and included anti-abortion and anti-LGBT propaganda. I scoffed, collected them all out of the wall holder thing, and threw them in the trash – the receptionist gave me a weird look.
A few minutes later she comes out and pulls them out of the trash can. She skims a few, frowns, and takes them to the back. I never saw those pamphlets in that waitingroom again.
So at least in this case it seems like it was one asshole (that possibly didn’t work there) put them out. Good call on questioning them about it.
These people do not deserve respect and should be openly mocked as soon as you discover they are a Christian nationalist.
I mean that’s horrifying. How can you trust your care to someone who believes you should be exterminated or at the very least forcefully subjugated and converted?
“It’s just an opinion piece.”
Sure, bud. The magazine exists to advocate theocracy.
On the cover:
R R Reno, right wing theologian and editor of the rag.
Matthew B Crawford, can’t find much about him other than he’s at UVA’s center for advanced studies. Looks like his writing was chosen for the rag rather than written for it.
Glenn C Arbery, former president and current professor at Wyoming Catholic College, the college is labeled “conservative” by some sources.
Christian Smith, theistic author and professor at Notre Dame.
Yeah, you are GUARANTEED not to get the best quality care at a doctor that believes in Christian Nationalism. It’s not the 50’s anymore, but they are trying to bring us back.
Christian nationalism did not exist in this sense in the 1950s. What we are calling Christian nationalism is toolism of big business and their Unholy alliance with the religious right.
The evangelicals, the baptists, the calvinists, they were never that political before like the '70s to '80s I forget something about Newt Gingrich and a bunch of assholes.
Lol
I hate the break it do y’all but doctors and specialists are some of the most ignorant motherfuckers you’ll ever meet, outside their field that is. Same goes for nurses…
Doesn’t mean they ain’t nice people that id trust my life to, I just wouldn’t listen to them for anything outside of the field they are in.
Dr Oz was a legitimately gifted cardiac surgeon.
