I worked at McD what of it? If someone’s working and paying bills then don’t judge them.
I’m a software developer now but not only through hard work as I recognise a certain amount of luck played into how I got where I am now and without that I’d still be working minimum wage somewhere.
But it’s a fact that people often work in fast food because they can’t get a job elsewhere. That doesn’t mean they don’t deserve a living wage, but it does mean that people who alienate potential employers by being intentionally obnoxious are more likely to end up there.
I appreciate your honesty and straightforwardness (here and in your other reply to the user below - sorry, I confused you with another user), but compared to the levels of vitriol being thrown at me in this thread for having the audacity to not just assume that a woman is a horrible bigot deserving of a bafflingly rude customer service interaction simply for asking for a “boy toy” for her son, I’d say I’m doing pretty well here, all things considered.
I’m just not sure how I’m the obnoxious one in this scenario, instead of all of the inflammatory commenters and the really obvious fishing attempts for bigotry that are keeping this sub-thread going?
Am I the obnoxious one just because I’m the one choosing not to go along with the ridiculous circle-jerk, even though my comments are an order of magnitude less antagonistic than the ones I’m responding to? I legitimately don’t know.
You’re the other user is right, though - my mind’s not going to change, and the handful of upvotes I’m getting lets me know that others feel the same way, even if they’re understandably hesitant to speak up about it with all the personal attacks I’m getting here as a result.
the handful of upvotes I’m getting lets me know that others feel the same way
LOL, I don’t know what the numbers were when you wrote that, but “appeal to upvotes” as an argument is hilariously bad for someone who’s being ratioed as heavily as you are.
Working at McDonald’s isn’t bad at all - it’s just that people who are more difficult to work with often end up working in fast food by necessity. My comment implies that the OOP works in fast food due to a lack of professionalism and a tendency to make rude comments to customers, as evidenced by the post.
You have no idea what your talking about, McDonalds requires a stupid level of professionalism as far as employee interaction and behavior goes, it’s not a fucking Waffle House.
If I were calling about a reference and heard this story related, I’d say to myself “great, so they’re willing to ask probing questions to clarify requirements.”
That could save weeks of work on some projects, and I’m not so desperate for clients that I’d want to work with one who would walk over a simple request for clarification.
Nope - the problem is that the OP is intentionally being obnoxiously obtuse to a random person just trying to go about their day, and who probably has zero idea why this random drive thru worker is being so oddly uncooperative.
Have you ever worked a minimum wage food service job? You get what you pay for. Why would you expect them to care anymore than the absolute bare minimum?
The federal minimum wage is $7.25/hr. If you’re not fucking around on that job, then you’re kind of an idiot.
“Minimum wage workers should be intentionally rude to people who are probably fellow wage workers instead of finding actually productive ways to push back against their exploitative employers” is certainly a take.
Not at all, but I honestly don’t think the hypothetical woman in the OP is being intentionally obtuse, even if she’s written to sound that way. Based on my coworkers, and the other people I know IRL, I think this woman would probably just be genuinely confused about why the worker was being so difficult when her son was sitting right there next to her.
I think that interactions on Lemmy give a very inaccurate picture of what real, everyday people are actually like.
She did choose. Twice. The OP just decided to act as though they didn’t understand her choice, and I definitely don’t think they did so because they feared their fast food employer would discipline them for not making sure the driver was clear enough about her choice of happy meal toy.
Is it not the lady for refusing to fucking pick? “I want the cool one” is just as useful of a descriptor, I’m sorry you have weird gender-based toy preferences
They’re both a little obtuse, but the drive thru operator is written to be puckish and the customer is just obnoxious. That our friend the professor over here has such strong opinions about the reasonableness of the customer makes me think that perhaps they are being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian. Or are a bigot, but I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. In either case nobody here is going to change their mind.
And that’s why they work at McDonald’s.
The fuck!
I worked at McD what of it? If someone’s working and paying bills then don’t judge them.
I’m a software developer now but not only through hard work as I recognise a certain amount of luck played into how I got where I am now and without that I’d still be working minimum wage somewhere.
There’s nothing wrong with working at McDonald’s.
But it’s a fact that people often work in fast food because they can’t get a job elsewhere. That doesn’t mean they don’t deserve a living wage, but it does mean that people who alienate potential employers by being intentionally obnoxious are more likely to end up there.
So you’re saying you’re unemployed?
Not at all. I’m quite gainfully employed, partially because I’m not intentionally obnoxious to my clients.
So you are able to not be intentionally obnoxious. I honestly wasn’t sure.
Just everyone that isn’t “your client,” huh? Is “your client” in the room with us?
All his clients are in Canada.
Sorry to tell you, but you do appear to be rather obnoxious right now, though whether there is any intent behind it, I am unable to tell.
I appreciate your honesty and straightforwardness (
here and in your other reply to the user below- sorry, I confused you with another user), but compared to the levels of vitriol being thrown at me in this thread for having the audacity to not just assume that a woman is a horrible bigot deserving of a bafflingly rude customer service interaction simply for asking for a “boy toy” for her son, I’d say I’m doing pretty well here, all things considered.I’m just not sure how I’m the obnoxious one in this scenario, instead of all of the inflammatory commenters and the really obvious fishing attempts for bigotry that are keeping this sub-thread going?
Am I the obnoxious one just because I’m the one choosing not to go along with the ridiculous circle-jerk, even though my comments are an order of magnitude less antagonistic than the ones I’m responding to? I legitimately don’t know.
You’rethe other user is right, though - my mind’s not going to change, and the handful of upvotes I’m getting lets me know that others feel the same way, even if they’re understandably hesitant to speak up about it with all the personal attacks I’m getting here as a result.LOL, I don’t know what the numbers were when you wrote that, but “appeal to upvotes” as an argument is hilariously bad for someone who’s being ratioed as heavily as you are.
It’s weird to conclude the story takes place during a recession.
We don’t have time for an interview through the McDonald’s drive-thru, my friend; you’re clogging up the line.
Why is working at McDonald’s bad, they still have a job
Working at McDonald’s isn’t bad at all - it’s just that people who are more difficult to work with often end up working in fast food by necessity. My comment implies that the OOP works in fast food due to a lack of professionalism and a tendency to make rude comments to customers, as evidenced by the post.
You have no idea what your talking about, McDonalds requires a stupid level of professionalism as far as employee interaction and behavior goes, it’s not a fucking Waffle House.
What does this mean
It means they were probably unable to get any other job due to purposefully being an obnoxious pain in the ass.
I would hire them. They’re not only hilarious and quick thinking, but smart and principled too
I don’t doubt you would.
If I were calling about a reference and heard this story related, I’d say to myself “great, so they’re willing to ask probing questions to clarify requirements.”
That could save weeks of work on some projects, and I’m not so desperate for clients that I’d want to work with one who would walk over a simple request for clarification.
Is the problem here that you just don’t get the joke?
Nope - the problem is that the OP is intentionally being obnoxiously obtuse to a random person just trying to go about their day, and who probably has zero idea why this random drive thru worker is being so oddly uncooperative.
There’s no such thing as “boys’ toys” and “girls’ toys”. This person is doing a public service by requiring an appropriate answer
Have you ever worked a minimum wage food service job? You get what you pay for. Why would you expect them to care anymore than the absolute bare minimum?
The federal minimum wage is $7.25/hr. If you’re not fucking around on that job, then you’re kind of an idiot.
“Minimum wage workers should be intentionally rude to people who are probably fellow wage workers instead of finding actually productive ways to push back against their exploitative employers” is certainly a take.
Can you really be angry over obtuse meeting obtuse?
Not at all, but I honestly don’t think the hypothetical woman in the OP is being intentionally obtuse, even if she’s written to sound that way. Based on my coworkers, and the other people I know IRL, I think this woman would probably just be genuinely confused about why the worker was being so difficult when her son was sitting right there next to her.
I think that interactions on Lemmy give a very inaccurate picture of what real, everyday people are actually like.
Is it obtuse? The key part is the “you have to choose”. You have to choose. You can’t delegate it to the cashier.
I once wanted to let the next shopper have some coupons, and the cashier had me physically pick it up and hand it over, so the camera can see.
She did choose. Twice. The OP just decided to act as though they didn’t understand her choice, and I definitely don’t think they did so because they feared their fast food employer would discipline them for not making sure the driver was clear enough about her choice of happy meal toy.
You seem like an obnoxious pain in the ass who can’t take a joke. It must be hard for you to hold a job.
Go on… Why does this explain why they work at McDonald’s?
Did… did you not read the enormous thread of replies to this comment where I explained exactly that, multiple times?
No, because I never learned how to read.
Why’s that?
Because they’re purposefully being an obnoxious pain in the ass to their customers. Other potential employers probably didn’t put up with that shit.
Found the lady from the drive-thru
Found someone people probably can’t stand to be around IRL because they do shit like in the OP.
Oh boy what an ironic comment from a scummy bigot.
i cant stand you <3
judging by the votes you’re far from alone
I don’t know you, so I can’t say for sure, but I’d probably feel likewise. That “toxic sweetness” stuff is usually a pretty good indicator.
Yeah I can’t stand to be around bigots IRL and I definitely bother them.
Them and everyone else, from the sound of it.
Yeah, I’m the one people appear to be bothered by 😂😂😂
Once again, the 196 circlejerk and the real world are very different places.
Found the Karen
Is it not the lady for refusing to fucking pick? “I want the cool one” is just as useful of a descriptor, I’m sorry you have weird gender-based toy preferences
They’re both a little obtuse, but the drive thru operator is written to be puckish and the customer is just obnoxious. That our friend the professor over here has such strong opinions about the reasonableness of the customer makes me think that perhaps they are being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian. Or are a bigot, but I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. In either case nobody here is going to change their mind.