• LustyArgonian@lemmy.world
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    No, they aren’t. It is largely men who commit the most murder incl serial killing. We just had a killer get caught in Arkansas that was a man. Also Travis Decker. Then some kind of unsolved quadruple murders in Tennessee recently too. Weird way to hate on women with delusional lies and then encourage incels to attack them by portraying women as the real evil - classic vulnerable narcissist move.

    https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11199-020-01193-3

    Among men and women collective narcissism was associated with tolerance of domestic violence against women, whereas national in-group satisfaction was associated with rejection of violence against women.

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      You’re both seeing the character differently. It wasn’t only about the murders for the OP. Bateman, in a superficial society, tries to be something special among his peers through meaningless acts (most notably the business cards scene, but even his self-care and self-improvement are ultimately means to the end to be better compared to others). It’s not that he isn’t closer to men than women - he or rather his archetype generally is - but that for these two subgroups within the genders, it’s reversed. (Whether the statement is correct or not is a topic for debate)

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        Then bring up Narcissus. Bateman is intentionally a serial killer and not removed from his murders whatsoever. Eg “you fuck a snake one time and then everyone calls you snakefucker” - we all think of Bateman as a serial killer first.

        Also, men engage in tons of fucking physical “self care,” eg testosterone, doping, weightlifting, Joe Rogan, carnivore diet, Andrew Tate, looksmaxxing, rogaine, meth, coke, adderall. Men literally die from ODing on drugs to look better. Women do too, but they aren’t “more obsessed” with their looks compared to their male peers. It’s a genuinely stupid premise that only feeds into hating women narratives

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          Maybe I misunderstood it but I got the impression that Bateman believes he’s a serial killer, but he’s not the most reliable so it could all be fantasy. Maybe I read too much into it. But yeah American Psycho is profoundly misogynistic and I get the impression Brett Easton Ellis is too

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            i dont think it’s misogynist to write a book about characters that are misogynistic, especially since the point is to criticize them

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            Okay, but it’s not about the nuance of the book itself, it’s again, that we all know Bateman as a serial killer for the purpose of the meme. Eg when we talk about Frankenstein, the readers know we mean Frankenstein’s monster but everyone just refers to him as Frankenstein himself.

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              Yes, for the sake of the meme, they used Bateman as an inflammatory example, on purpose, to trigger people sensitive to the topic. This MO has been around for decades, and you fell for it like it’s your first time on the internet.

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                That does nothing to negate that everyone knows Bateman as a serial killer, and your bad faith appeal to emotion fallacy is pathetic.

                Is this your first time on the internet, that you are unaware people can critically think, have opinions, and write them on a discussion board about an original post? That’s the entire format of Lemmy lol

                But nah, you just want to be a shithead to women which is what this is actually about. Go fuck yourself.

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      i think the post was more about how shallow and consumerist patrick bateman is and how shallow some women can be. a lot of the movie (haven’t read the novel) goes into his routines, his self-care and the idolization of brands, expensive things, status, money, looks and appearance.

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          They lack the commitment and the personal investment… which doesn’t put them above it, which is why the the post might be offensive to them. Hence the two hornet nests remark

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            How do you know that? Weightlifting and performance enhancers and carnivore diet are extremely popular among misogynists and Andrew Tate types, specifically because they believe in might makes right. It part of why they harm women - because they feel like being stronger entitles them to that.

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              I can’t help but feel you’ve missed the entire intent of this post and I don’t think there is anything anyone could do or say to get it across to you due to your brick walling.