Actually I was less attacking the foreign-ness of it. I was more attacking the Jewish-ness of it.
The Zionist lobby in the USA is not actually very Jewish in the sense that theyre mostly evangelical Christian’s.
When you say ZOG it gives Elders of Zion vibes, which was perhaps an unfair assumption by me but well fuck saying “ZOG” does have a certain history. If you see me sporting Germanic runes tattooed on my chest it wouldn’t be your fault for making some assumptions.
The belief that an identifiably Jewish group are driving American politics just isn’t true. The Zionist lobby is a major power center driving American politics but the Zionist lobby isn’t all that Jewish, it’s a subordinate element of the eschatological evangelical right which can very accurately be described as a white evangelical Christian force. That’s what the Zionist lobby is. It’s an expression of a white evangelical settler colonialist racist apartheid eschatological Christian and deeply American politics.
Because I did. Because you were throwing “ZOG” around so I don’t think that’s on me but ok I accept I made an assumption there, but maybe using that acronym really is like insisting you’re into Nordic religion and it’s sun symbolism. True enough for some folk for sure but still not my fault.
I mean i used it because the last time i was argued at the tl;dr explanation for the Real Analysis on Relations was basically “it’s one government run by zionists” which literally just sounded like ZOG shit but coming to the same conclusion by different principles
also at the time I erroneously believed it stood for “zionist one world government” for some reason (I guess i tied it into globalist conspiracy nonsense in my head? Idk) but i guess it’s “zionist occupation government” or whatever and I didn’t realize the inherent difference occupation implies as a result (it being a foreign spooky enemy in control rather than a home grown ideology)
Me saying the term doesn’t mean i think it’s an accurate descriptor though, i was saying it for the hypocrisy i perceived over being accused of being an anti semite for arguing that israel isn’t just a dog on a leash etc only to have what seemed like the ZOG conspiracy explained to me like it’s the Proper Explanation. That’s why I was like, look out FM of Iran, you’re going to get the same accusations, don’t you know, israel can’t influence the u.s. they’re the same! One government, run by zionists! As it is how i perceived that explanation and it added to the feeling of irony i felt over it
Bro if you have a black sun tattoo because you’re into heavy metal, you don’t get to be angry when people make assumptions about what that black sun means.
It has baggage.
Throwing “ZOG” around has baggage.
If you want to cry about “they made assumptions about me being an antisemite when ZOG rule the world”, and you also fail to elaborate anything else about what you mean…
Oh my god you can’t read apparently, don’t worry i blocked you. Should have when you gave me your unnecessary screed but this was me trying to be polite over being talked at
Nothing the iranian FM has to say on the matter erases the baggage of the term.
You’re not Hindu. Stop wearing the swastika.
Getting into an argument about why you should be allowed to casually say “ZOG” without being pulled up on it is not pro-Israel, it’s anti- dumb mother fuckers.
Actually I was less attacking the foreign-ness of it. I was more attacking the Jewish-ness of it.
The Zionist lobby in the USA is not actually very Jewish in the sense that theyre mostly evangelical Christian’s.
When you say ZOG it gives Elders of Zion vibes, which was perhaps an unfair assumption by me but well fuck saying “ZOG” does have a certain history. If you see me sporting Germanic runes tattooed on my chest it wouldn’t be your fault for making some assumptions.
The belief that an identifiably Jewish group are driving American politics just isn’t true. The Zionist lobby is a major power center driving American politics but the Zionist lobby isn’t all that Jewish, it’s a subordinate element of the eschatological evangelical right which can very accurately be described as a white evangelical Christian force. That’s what the Zionist lobby is. It’s an expression of a white evangelical settler colonialist racist apartheid eschatological Christian and deeply American politics.
Ah, I see, well I don’t see zionism as representative of judaism either
Well alright then, I accept I made an assumption.
Because I did. Because you were throwing “ZOG” around so I don’t think that’s on me but ok I accept I made an assumption there, but maybe using that acronym really is like insisting you’re into Nordic religion and it’s sun symbolism. True enough for some folk for sure but still not my fault.
I mean i used it because the last time i was argued at the tl;dr explanation for the Real Analysis on Relations was basically “it’s one government run by zionists” which literally just sounded like ZOG shit but coming to the same conclusion by different principles
also at the time I erroneously believed it stood for “zionist one world government” for some reason (I guess i tied it into globalist conspiracy nonsense in my head? Idk) but i guess it’s “zionist occupation government” or whatever and I didn’t realize the inherent difference occupation implies as a result (it being a foreign spooky enemy in control rather than a home grown ideology)
Me saying the term doesn’t mean i think it’s an accurate descriptor though, i was saying it for the hypocrisy i perceived over being accused of being an anti semite for arguing that israel isn’t just a dog on a leash etc only to have what seemed like the ZOG conspiracy explained to me like it’s the Proper Explanation. That’s why I was like, look out FM of Iran, you’re going to get the same accusations, don’t you know, israel can’t influence the u.s. they’re the same! One government, run by zionists! As it is how i perceived that explanation and it added to the feeling of irony i felt over it
Bro if you have a black sun tattoo because you’re into heavy metal, you don’t get to be angry when people make assumptions about what that black sun means.
It has baggage.
Throwing “ZOG” around has baggage.
If you want to cry about “they made assumptions about me being an antisemite when ZOG rule the world”, and you also fail to elaborate anything else about what you mean…
Dude shut the fuck up.
Oh my god you can’t read apparently, don’t worry i blocked you. Should have when you gave me your unnecessary screed but this was me trying to be polite over being talked at
Nothing the iranian FM has to say on the matter erases the baggage of the term.
You’re not Hindu. Stop wearing the swastika.
Getting into an argument about why you should be allowed to casually say “ZOG” without being pulled up on it is not pro-Israel, it’s anti- dumb mother fuckers.