Prayers up for the entire Scott The Woz crew
Toledo, Ohio
Chicago, Ohio
Cleveland, Ohio
Detroit, OhioWeeaboo greeting his classmates fifteen years after a city-based baby naming trend:
We have all become Ohio on this blessed wild fire smoke day.
Always have been.
:N95-Yeah.jpg:
Will an N95 suffice for protecting yourself from trash air quality?
Won’t do a thing for CO2 but will be excellent for PM2.5 which is the main nasty shit in smoke smog.
It seems that 385 being hazardous means 800* should have a different rating? Unless the scale is really large, I guess.
Hazardous basically means “do not go outside under any circumstances.” The actual problem is that people and governments just ignore the safety issues associated with hazardous air quality. It’s not like you’re allowed to call out of work for safety or health reasons, right?
To add to the other comment:
https://www.airnow.gov/aqi/aqi-basics/
Hazardous is the highest rating on the scale, everything over 301 is Hazardous
“3.6 roentgen, not great, not terrible”
You should see the posts folks, everyone wants to go to war with Canada for smoking up the place.
We just have to invade Canada and burn down all the trees, that’ll stop the somke!
There are some really amazing pictures of Beijing and other cities not that they are getting decent air quality a lot of the time
So China’s air quality was…what? Just fine? Derp derp? Shitty air quality anywhere is bad for anybody who lives there, but it seems like you’re absolving China because somebody else also fucked up…
The problem isn’t that China actually had good air quality, the problem (besides that China, as the manufacturing hub of the west, being blamed is acting as a sin-eater rather than representing real critique) is that in one case it’s a problem that is considered characteristic and an indictment of the whole society while in the case of America that’s just one city’s problem and it’s just the way things are.
I’m sure your familiar with this in other contexts even with China, where they do something bad and we need to mention it every time the PRC comes up but America does something bad and it’s aw shucks but it’s in the past now and it was a different time etc. etc. or it’s in the present but it’s actually Russia’s fault or the Republican’s fault or a DINO’s fault or whatever. When they do something bad, it’s a reflection of their fundamentally evil character, and when America does something bad, it was an exception to or merely a shortcoming in its essentially beneficent character. Clumsy giant and all that.
China, the north especially, had bad air quality due to many things like rural people burning firewood and coal during the winter, dust storms, rapid urbanisation (and a sudden increase in car use) and less-well-regulated heavy industry during the more liberal late 90’s and early 2000s.
most of those things have been reversed. China has the best air quality in east Asia probably, and I don’t think you’ll find a major world city of over 10 million people that has better air quality than a chinese megacity. for example Taipei, so beloved by liberals, has air quality much worse than any city in the mainland
this is bullshit. i was in china 10 years ago for a week in hangzhou and i never saw the sun. i could only barely tell where it was in the sky. that was perfectly normal. in contrast, in the new york megalopolis, it is shocking when the sun is hidden by haze.
edit: i said this implying there was no way on earth they could have improved air quality that much in only 10 years. it was shocking to me how bad it was. in all my life i had never seen anything like it, even when new york was filthy. odd days where things were hazy, but nothing at all like this, and it never ended. you just did not ever see the sun. i was there for a week, but everyone there i spoke to said that it was always this way. 10 years isn’t long enough.
and, indeed, you can see for yourself:
hangzhou: https://aqicn.org/historical#!city:hangzhou new york: https://aqicn.org/historical#!city:usa/newyork
anyone who tells you that china’s air quality is anything but fucking terrible basically all the time is trying to work you
I was in Hangzhou last year and it was absolutely beautiful.
So I followed your link, because I also went to china ~10 years ago and was sceptical about how much it could change and right now, monitoring stations near Hangzhou range between 24 and 57-ish AQI, and while Tokyo stations appear to be between ~50 and 150. They’ve also, over the last ten years or so, gone from having no days in the green zone, to what appears to be about half the year. So… What were you saying? To me it looks like there has been a staggering improvement.
anyone who tells you that china’s air quality is anything but fucking terrible basically all the time is trying to work you
This isn’t a generalization that follows from your statement.
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10 years ago
lol, lmao
Turns out things can improve when a country is competently governed

lol. https://aqicn.org/historical#!city:hangzhou
compare and contrast
Why are you trying to argue that Hangzhou’s air quality isn’t improving by pointing at a source that shows it’s improving? Also, Chinese cities are obviously affected by the fact the whole world outsourced its manufacturing there, what’s the excuse for American cities with shit AQI
what’s the excuse for American cities with shit AQI
canada is on fire
No, and who caused global warming? It wasn’t china that went after climate science and protection public private and pulpit since the 1970s.
What major heavy industry hubs are near new york
what’s a goalpost?
Do you believe that the air quality being bad is caused by pseudo-communism poisoning reality through the corrupted minds of China’s citizens or do you think that it comes from, for example, industrial plants?
You are literally the one moving the goalposts
Why do you continue to embarrass yourself like this?
No one is arguing that China has perfect air quality dipshit
Its always gonna be challenging to improve the air quality there because its the world’s fucking factory
You came in here talking about hangzhou’s air quality a fking decade ago and using it in comparison to new york today
All im saying is that the government there has made a ton of improvements over the last fking decade and that’s supported even by the sources you posted
this is bullshit. i was in china 10 years ago for a week
lol ok

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This gif actually sums it up perfectly

still cleaner than the air after your goofy ass rips a fart
Look who’s laughing now














