Theodore Roosevelt created the national forests to protect them from exactly the kind of industrial plunder this administration is enabling
ah yes. Lets not forget what actually happened :
Roosevelt continued his predecessors’ push to remove Native Americans from their ancestral territories. According to environmental historian Theodore Catton, some 86 million acres of tribal land transferred to the national forest system, much of it during Roosevelt’s tenure. America’s 423 national parks, meanwhile, comprise about 85 million acres—also once largely the province of Native peoples. “The rise of conservation dovetailed with a national closeout sale on the Indians’ landed heritage,” wrote Catton.
speaking to the article itself here praising roosevelt and saying that his desecration “would make my blood boil”
I remember where I was when I learned about “Fortress Conservation” as a phenomenon of political economy (political ecology). as a formal ecologist, the histories (some quite recent/current) were eye opening. i have tried to bring my colleagues attention to it, but aside from younger scientists and conservation workers, older faculty and non profit leaders (with limited exception) were extremely recalcitrant about learning from its lessons, generally.
these people really don’t want to acknowledge that many of their exalted heroes fucking hated indigenous people and held extremely racist opinions about traditional ecological knowledge and land management. or just how fascist it is to insist that only a certain socioeconomic cohort of generally urban elites with political power can understand natural resources and they should make decisions unanswerable to the people who live and build their lives in these places.
As always there is a
episode about this:now i’m thinking back to an old colleague, a german ex-pat living in the u.s. who loved the national park system, and realizing i have yet another overdue henry morgenthau apology form to fill out
like no actually, he was one link in the chain that led to where we are now.
I hate these motherfuckers with all my heart
Where your heart fails to hold all the hatred they deserve, mine picks up where yours left off. Our combined communist human waves of hatred will liberate Stalingrad.
In communist Hexbear, when one soldier goes down the soldier behind them picks up their heart and resumes the fight. They don’t issue enough hearts for every Hexbear
heart collecting is far more noble than semen collecting
I didn’t want a heart and I’m honored I was able to ask it reassigned to someone else, actually.
My heart grew 300 sizes to make room for all the hatred
You gotta distill that hatred down until it’s fully pure, 190 proof hate.
I feel like a guy who was elected by like 22% of the population shouldn’t get to make decisions like this, but what do I know?
sorry sweaty this is democracy
Literally the point of liberal democracy.
You can say 20 percent but lets be honest, at least 40 percent of Americans are hogs, another 20 percent dgaf either ways
Looks like it’s eco-terrorism time!
Definitely do not look up Ecodefense: A Field Guide to MonkeywrenchingManchester.edu has it
Edward Abbey was definitely not a real person, his FICTIONAL ideas are purely for entertainment
I live adjacent to national forest and the forest itself is pretty much the same on public and private land. When people around here clear their land they basically break even or have to pay to get rid of the trees because, shocker, saw mills for lumber aren’t setup to process oak/maple/hickory. So it’s either pulpwood, or truly prize specimens (which are rare) get sold to smaller processors as like “bespoke” trees for making furniture.
Our softwood stands come nowhere close to competing with Canada and the southern states in terms of tree size and number, so even if you do have loblolly (or whatever) it’s not economic to harvest. I mean, you make a little bit, but it’s laughable. It’s only worth it if you are going to clear the land anyway for development.
So cutting a national forest to compete with Canada wouldn’t even work in the most bare naked capitalist, Looten Plunder-ass sense.
So I’m guessing you are either in the north east or parts of the Midwest based on what you wrote. There are three things I’d point out with that being said. Firstly, there are some areas where there are genuinely valuable trees on forest service land, as they allow logging at a minorly limited rate. This is especially true out west. Secondly, evonomies of scale. Much of the lumber industry is set up to clearcut even aged plantations at scale, and as a result it can be hard to find sawmills to buy small and diverse loads of logs from clearing smaller private parcels. Thirdly, there is an increasing demand for wood based biofuel, mainly for export to Europe or japan. This industry is only established in the southeast and Pacific Northwest thus far, but the companies involved in that do seem to be attempting to expand (drax, a British company was denied permits to build two large biofuel pellet plants in California).
Tldr, your observations of the timber industry are accurate but I think there are specific intelligent profiteers behind this type of move
Thanks for the insight.
Here’s a photo of him issuing the executive order.
In the spirit of continuing to sephirothpost no further:
Something something I hate the Antichrist.
Blood for the blood god
It falls, one pillar at a time. With any luck, I’ll live to see the end of America.
