Zohran Maoist arc in 2026 challenge
the maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry
More and more people are saying this
I only see complaints about him on here but tbh he is approximately 1000% better and cooler than my current “liberal” mayor, for the public bathroom funding initiative alone.
liberals buried the bar in hell
Yeah he’s had missteps but if every US politician was like Zohran we’d be in a much, much better place
“
for the lesser evil”
He was inside a slum on his first day as mayor, documenting the issues, and met with a tenant council. Politically I disagree with some of his positions of course, but he does really seem to care about especially the issue of rent and bad landlords. And its easy points to score with your constituents, no one likes their landlord.
I am also excited that the DSA-NYC is still pushing for stuff, they are trying to have a huge rally in Albany in a couple weeks to push for funding the Zohr-genda (taxing the rich)
This is me. I absolutely know better. I didn’t fall for it. I’m perfectly willing to drink the disappointment when he wants an Israel tax or something. But God strike me down if this isn’t neat.
you can’t always get what you want
but if you try sometimes
you’ll find
you get what you need
and some people want to take away taglines
Who?!
The girl reading this
good god, just offering a publicly supported platform for tenants to come together with grievances against landlords in the borough is some real shit.
i bet the vibe will be electric.
some real “We are the rhydo, kid. We’re the fuel. We’re the thing that explodes when there is too much friction in the air.”
Has he apologized for his tweet in sympathy for the cops that killed that guy having a mental episode in his own home, in front of his parents?
you have the right to be shot in front of a home you can afford!
You know the answer
I did actually think it was possible that he gave a bad and inadequate apology, though I certainly was not meaning to ask if he seemed serious about making amends for his wrongdoing.
Fair, but he only apologizes for being too left wing (cops, Maduro), never for being too right wing
Don’t forget backtracking on “globalize the intifada”
Certified Democrat Classic
“Bad landlords” pre-supposes that there’s such thing as a “good landlord.” Anyways, long live Comrade Zohran, great follower of Marxism-Leninism-Mao Zedong Thought!
Chairmain Mao specifically accounted for good landlords. If you were a good landlord, your former tenants simply wouldn’t shoot you in the head!
In all seriousness, total land reform wasn’t what the cpc originally wanted. They sought moderate reforms in line with China developing capitalist productive forces. They sought to remove only abusive, reactionary landlords, but this meant peasants could only get land reform by accusing their landlords of being abusive reactionaries. The communist intelligentsia was unable to stifle the revolutionary peasant movement, and land reform took place at their pace.
but this meant peasants could only get land reform by accusing their landlords of being abusive reactionaries
Somehow I doubt they peasants had to lie about that very often, lol.
Nobody is saying you can’t go there and say exactly that 👁️👁️
okay I said I’d never go to a protest but I think it’d be really funny to sit outside these with a giant guillotine and a sign labelling it “solution for bad landlords”
that’s not a protest, it’s support
I said I’d never go to a protest
Why?
Because no protest in the history of protest has achieved anything in the absence of the threat of armed violence and I’m not about to waste my time AND be savaged by the police for literally nothing, and no, “what are you doing then?” isn’t a good defense of protesting
But you’ve never been to any protest? Ever?
The purpose of the protests is to teach people the inefficacy of protests, and to bind them together in a sense of unity against fascism to counteract isolation. Then, to have everyone who is sufficiently agitated and motivated to defend the working class physically in one location where they can self organize and/or be recruited to other activities.
he’s not perfect but he’s definitely laying an interesting pathway to follow
the liberal trump (or anti-trump, or dare i say socdem trump) finally comes along and can’t even be president (or can he?)
My biggest fear is that the DSA triumphs in 2026 midterms (IDK what that would be, but probably 10-30 DSA or DSA-aligned “progressives” in congress is a possibility in 2026) and parlays that into winning the presidency with AOC, which would just be another weak, feckless and compromised presidency. The bare minimum for a 2028 presidency in my book would be Abolishing ICE, Arm Embargo on Israel, and Medicare 4 All, but beyond that we need serious investment in education, and some sort of re-education even. If we don’t thoroughly de-nazify and also build up the alternatives to fascism, then Carlson/Fuentes 2032 or 2036 becomes a real possibility. But I don’t have any confidence AOC would dismantle the surveillance and police state, and we will be right back where we are now, with an even more radical fascist coalition.
Arm Embargo on Israel
shit we should be embargoing Israel for everything, they should be getting the treatment Cuba is getting
we should send trump a doctored map that swaps them
Yeah I Agree, but an arms embargo is the floor
Eh I’d take it. It would be a menshevik vs bolshevik situation, really show people there is a farther-left group that is better
Yeah, this is my position on DSA more broadly. I am not going to be upset when they win, but it is our duty to continue to push and not be complacent just because we get a socdem president and a bit of our social safety net back.
As we said with Bernie…
Mamdani IS the compromise.
The OG struggle sessions invoked community justice. They did with the landlords what the community willed, particularly those who had previously been forced to serve them.
What will happen as a result of community vent sessions on “bad landlords”?
What will happen as a result of community vent sessions on “bad landlords”?
you kinda gotta get people together in a room talking about how shitty their landlords are if you want to get them to realize 1) they can do something 2) they should do something 3) they can organize to do that thing
Organizing means actually getting people to do those things. Laying out the framework. And Mamdani is mayor, he has power. Just getting people in a room is weak in that context and could just as easily be a false catharsis session.
See: every single Democrat-led protest or rally.
I don’t think the landlords will be dealt with appropriately, but I think when you have the infrastructure to simply imprison them that’s much better than having them tortured or killed. It’s not really the best application of democratic principles to have what happens to a convicted person be decided by a group of their victims rather than have society broadly agree on standard procedures.
Obviously in Mao’s case with the land reform, he did not have such luxuries and relied on the victims of the landlords and other locals not because of some sort of moralizing logic but because managing such an overwhelmingly large project with frequently no infrastructure to facilitate coordination beyond dirt roads is unwieldy unless you just leave it up to the peasants to basically do as they will.
If we imagined that Zohran was a Marxist and had control of the police, the thing to do certainly involves mass arrests of landlords. This action is useful regardless because it’s not just about the landlords who get criticized (though them having their reputation publicly destroyed is a plus), but about using these stories as the basis for getting support for policies to prevent many common abuses and broadcasting quite loudly how past administrations allowed them to get away with such things and never bothered to ask people to publicly share their experiences like we see here, and how administrations in other cities are continuing to ignore such problems.
Ziohran Mossadani is bootlicking slime who does apologia for cops, but I think we should regard this campaign as potentially a good thing, though of course it depends on how Zohran and company actually administrates the campaign, since he certainly has shown himself as ready to squander potential for careerist reasons.
Y’all gotta get even more cynical, yo. There isn’t even a vague agenda outside of this being a venting session. People will be seen and heard. That’s the floor and expectation being set and it’s already qualified to be about “bad” landlords in a society where people think their landlord is “good” just because they aren’t constantly jacking up rent, barging into their living space unannounced, and refusing to make any repairs. In many ways the framing is already a liberal false consciousness.
Perhaps it could lead to good and strategic things. But it could just as easily be garbage and there isn’t much to be optimistic about.
If we imagined that Zohran was a Marxist and had control of the police, the thing to do certainly involves mass arrests of landlords. This action is useful regardless because it’s not just about the landlords who get criticized (though them having their reputation publicly destroyed is a plus), but about using these stories as the basis for getting support for policies to prevent many common abuses and broadcasting quite loudly how past administrations allowed them to get away with such things and never bothered to ask people to publicly share their experiences like we see here, and how administrations in other cities are continuing to ignore such problems.
that “and” is very important. He’d need to do some serious purging to actually have control of the NYPD
Absolutely. There’s no way he tries and if he did he’d probably be shot, but without that there’s not much he could do for using his office directly for radical change.
I bet they go after a family member first.
Luigi?
For the govt it can’t just be about finding out who the most bad Ls are because that info is already easily available to them. A vent session can be helpful, but only if the proper follow up is planned.
In my most optimistic imagination they will be forums to strike committees that each have a municipal staffer assigned to them to report back to the mayor. Something like a neighborhood police liaison committee or whatever its called. Probably there would be a bunch of DSA people already planning in each zone. These areas are pretty large so should be broken up into smaller committees according to target L or geography.
If I was living in one of these neighborhoods I’d be inclined to attend for the cruising alone.
I think you’re overestimating the interest and capacity of NYDSA. Those would be nice things, though.
agree
Mao’s policy notably only targeted “bad landlords”
That’s actually pretty accurate, and it wasn’t so much “Mao’s policy” as just what wound up happening as a result of peasant outrage mixed with suddenly being given agency and an ideological push to redress their personal grievances. It was as I understand limited specifically to the rural landlords who lived in or near their the villages their victims did, the people who’d most directly committed crimes against their tenants, while absentee landlords who lived in cities far from their estates were spared and often given deals where they willingly gave up their claims to their former lands in exchange for party membership and jobs as bureaucrats on account of the CPC of the early 50s being that desperate for literate workers that they made a lot of “oh, you can read? If you’ll take this desk job doing paperwork and make a gesture of good faith by voluntarily giving up your capital and land, we’re ready to forgive a whole lot of stuff you may or may not have done” concessions.
To be clear you said the “good landlords” were expropriated too, even if they got concessions?
I didn’t say “good”, just that the ones who weren’t personally doing their crimes seem to have mostly avoided punishment and received special treatment in exchange for going along with expropriation quietly.
Mao notably owned an iPhone.
Wow so he criticized capitalism but participated in it? Fucked up of him
Who are you fighting?
Capitalism? Imperialism? Are you not?
In seriousness, it was a joke at the people comparing Mamdani to Mao, not you, comrade
Social democrats
This ain’t Reddit.
I second the motion.
I live in a supposed “social democracy”, nothing to do with reddit. You asked, and I answered.
This statement is correct when taken sincerely
Only the baddies were targeted?
Landlord -> bad landlord
(Landlords are ontologically evil)
Cool… Putting “Bad” in front of landlords is kinda redundant though. They’re landlords FFS.
Yeah this is the liberal line he tows. There must be good landlords, good cops, good capitalists, it’s the bad ones we need to go after. It’s how he won and also he could drop it now and would be even more popular, but I think he really believes it
Sure, but if he actually improves conditions for New York renters, then quibbling over language is a secondary concern.
I’m more speaking to his earnestness as a socialist. Doing charity and being the best democrat is good for the short term material conditions of New York renters but it will inevitably need to go further than that to be more than a win for the bourgeois party. If he doesn’t fully believe in socialist principles (knowing that literally all landlords and capitalists are truly bad and the problem), he won’t go any farther than “most progressive Democrat” which serves the interest of Democrats more than anyone
If he improves conditions for New Yorkers, the gains go to his Democratic Party, not the communist movement
he was never a communist, and it depends if people think he’s a regular democrat or something else when they see national democrats shitting the bed on ICE and stuff.
If there was ever a time where gains to local politics were disconnected from national parties it’s now, and there’s sometimes a history of american local politics being disjointed from national, e.g. blue stats and republican governors.
This community is ostensibly communist, and people don’t do that calculus, if a democrat makes gains while cooperating with party elites (Jeffries et al), those gains will not make the party seem worse
the party elites have dug themselves an incredibly deep hole, and libs are starting to be after their heads. If Mamdani does something good with their cooperation it’s not going to move the needle much for normal people, they’re starting to cult for the guy, not for the democratic party.
that’s a different problem, but it’s not the party stealing valor.
They have to communicate in a way which is comprehensible to the most people.
Peoples’ Tribunals
the manhattan event better be in central park
Zohran is a land of contrasts
