• CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
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    Not American.

    Also agree it’s not great to reduce a nation to stereotypes and make fun of them. But, it’s pretty universal.

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    This is the dumbest and most immature thing I have seen in a while. While I don’t supporting generalizing an entire nation like this, if you’re going to mock the US then at least do it properly. How are people supposed to react to this? “Ha ha! Drug addicts are so stupid!”? Not to mention that of all the things you could criticize the US for, fent addicts are not the most pressing issue.

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    To everyone thinking this is a uniquely mean thing. Its a trend at the moment for people to “fent lean” to mock americans. It doesnt matter if its mean to fent addicts they got bigger problems and dont care about kids on tiktok. It hurts Americans because they KNOW its a problem and they are ashamed and they want people to either pretend it doesnt exist or pretend to care because thats what they’re doing(generalization). Its a great attack on Americans IMO.

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      It hurts Americans because they KNOW its a problem and they are ashamed

      You’re off your rocker if you think Americans spend much time feeling embarrassed about its tiny number of fentanyl addicts.

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        Those would fit into the camp of Americans that pretend it doesnt exist and they dont like being reminded that it does exist and its an American problem.

        Look at your comment for example, its not a tiny amount of fent addicts, your streets are full of them. I went to LA Precovid and it was disgusting people seeing people drugged out living on the streets being treated like its normal. There were 500k people homeless at that time, now there are 800k. You cannot sit here and say thats normal or say its only a tiny amount. Fent deaths have more than doubled since then homelessness is on the rise, drug use is on the rise.

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    Here is a Google translated interview with the Greenlandic MP Aki-Matilda Høegh-Dam (member of both the Danish and Greenlandic Parliament) in the Italian magazine Espresso today (original here).

    Below my reaction:

    "Her discourse is very nationalistic, heavily anchored in Greenland’s colonial history, with a strong sense of recourse for wrongs received. She clearly has a painful tooth, which transmits throughout the interview.

    While agreeing in principle (colonialism is indeed a deep wound and injustice, and Danes - I know since I lived there - can still be arrogant notwithstanding the Jante Law), she has to make a choice and face the reality of Greenland’s extremely tiny population, similar to that of the small Italian city of Cuneo, therefore of an extremely limited amount of people to be able to act convincingly on an international level.

    Greenlandic citizens have at the moment a Danish passport, not a Greenlandic one, therefore they are EU citizens (which she doesn’t mention) while not being part of the EU (which she does), but part of NATO (she mentions this at well).

    Are they more protected as EU citizens (with Danish or perhaps Greenlandic passports in the future) or as US citizens (as a territory, which - let’s be real - excludes voting representation in the U.S. Federal government)?

    In the end her discourse emphasizes the fact that the dignity of Greenlandic people ought to be recognized, but what if the other future partner/owner couldn’t care less?

    I am afraid the Greenlandic people are no stronger internationally (and with regards to the US in particular) than the much larger population of Gaza.

    They (the Greenlandic people) will just as easily be ignored and abused in this new US setup as the Gazans are right now and as Greenlanders were historically in the Danish setup (perhaps no longer right now, although some Danish condescension remains).

    Many Greenlanders are now considering emigration (moving to Denmark mainly) or simply being sidelined. It is not the moment, I am afraid, for Greenlanders to just adhere to principles, but to simply chose the best option available, while heavily insisting on those results that can be achieved in a very short time period (to avoid being on the menu of the 250th birthday party of the Declaration of Independence on 4 July 2026).

    The best thing they could do is to align themselves with Iceland (population 5 to 6 times larger than that of Greenland but facing unfortunately analogous challenges), Canada (same as far as the challenges are concerned) and the EU, and insist on actions on those levels, which she isn’t doing.

    I am concerned that her position might be noble in principle, but disastrous in reality."

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      Aki Matilda Høgh Dam is a total joke who is using her inuit ancestry to parade around like she herself was ever remotely affected by the negative things Denmark has done in Greenland. Her entire personality trait is to cosplay as an oppressed inuit woman and she desperately wants to be a victim.

      I remember her making a bunch of posts after going to the doctor and being recommended to get the spiral which is very very common. I have had it suggested by my doctor too because I sometimes forget to take my pill on time. Aki Matilda went off on social media about how she was now a victim too of the spiral case which is a scandal from the 1960s where some greenlandic women had the spiral inserted without consent. She soooo wants to be an inuit victim while looking like this:

      I wouldn’t take an extremist like her seriously. At all. I would rather listen to real greenlandic people who actually live in Greenland and have sensible and adult takes on the Denmark/Greenland situation. It is complicated and I’m not gonna pretend like we were innocent angels who always treated the inuit right. That is definitely not the case, but we have done a lot to fix past wrongs and give the people of Greenland as much freedom and comfort as we can, to the point where they get more things for free via the welfare system than we do. I’m okay with that because they live in a very rough area and have many challenges of various different degrees so it’s the least we can do to make sure they have what they need to run a functioning society.

      Fun fact: Aki Matilda’s fiance, Kuno Fencker, was very much trying to be buddy buddy with Maga last year. Aki Matilda, Kuno and politicians like them are poison for the political discourse regarding Greenland because all they ever think about is their victim complex and their hatred for Denmark. There is very little rationality going on in those little heads of theirs and it is a total tragedy that their screeching gets a spotlight while the genuinely good and reasonable greenlandic politicians such as Aaja Chemnitz are drowned out by the extremists who go to Trumps inauguration with the greenlandic flag, livestreams their retardation from the white house and is called a traitor by their countrymen who were very much not okay with this unbelievably insane behavior. Cough, cough, Kuno, cough.

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          Your thoughts were pretty spot on, btw, but I see red whenever her name pops up anywhere. I don’t want anyone outside of the Danish Kingdom to think this idiot is remotely representative for Greenland as a whole.

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      I think this is unfortunately a fair assesment, speaking as a Dane. They want independence, but with a territory under so much pressure, it is unfortunately looking less and less feasible in practice.

      What is worse is that right now they feel completely sidelined, as per Danish national media. They see the American propagonda machine throwing out that a deal has been made, and they feel betrayed, left out, in the cold, unsure of their future.

      One thing is for sure though: we will not compromise on their land and their right to decide their own future. It’s a wild and weird situation. 1/3 of Greenlanders also live in Denmark, and vice versa, looking at the news while two small countries try to cement some sort or deal through high level negotiation.

      For now it’s probably best kept out of media though so our countries can figure it out without the orange clown dancing on our doorstep.

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        Thank you. Just for clarity: does your comment about it being a fair assessment refer to my comment or to the interview?

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    Americans seem completely fine with mocking and insulting Russians, Israelis and others, but when someone mocks Americans, all of a sudden it’s inappropriate to make fun of the general population for their government’s actions.

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      American here, I’ve never agreed with mocking the population for the actions of the government. But sure generalise hundreds of millions of people, anything to avoid thinking about your hatefulness and it eating your soul bit by bit.

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          Maybe I’m fucking tired of being told that I need die for the sins of others or suffer despite not doing anything wrong. Maybe I’m tired of the constant hypocrisy from both sides.

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            No. Fuck you. What YOU SHOULD BE TIRED OF is living under a fascist regime that is sucking the life out of you and everyone around you.

            Foreigners making fun of you should be the bottom of your problems lists. Again Americans just have no sense of priority ranking.

            Grow some skin you dainty delicate little flowers. Makes me ashamed to be American.

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              I AM TIRED OF IT YOU FUCKING IDIOT WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO FUCKING DO? I LIVE ON DISABILITY IN FUCKING WYOMING. I can be mad at multiple things you fucking piece of shit.

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              Valid. Americans get angry at the wrong things. It’s a lack of Critical Thinking Skills being taught in public schools.

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      Israelis overwhelmingly support the genocide in Gaza. Bad comparison and bad take

      And that’s completely ignoring the fact that not a single person has even remotely approached what is being said about random citizens directly, about Russian or Israeli citizens. But yeah we’re just uniquely bad and evil keep telling yourself that

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    American here. The US fully deserves to be mocked, blocked, ridiculed, and shunned.

    I’m a Democratic Socialist, and have never voted for a Republican in my life. I’m as stuck with this BS as are the Britons who didn’t vote for Brexit. I laughed at the Brits while Trump was in his first term saying, “At least our fuck-up will be gone in four years.”

    D’oh!

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      Pretty much. We have been shameless for a decade.

      We literally have home grown Americans walking around with Nazi uniforms in the street. Like actually wearing Nazi signs. You know, the symbols our grandparents used to shoot at on sight.

      There are so many internal problems with racism, sexism, the economy, healthcare. But we are still screeching about America #1.

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        America #1.

        It’s #1 alright… just not where it matters.

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    Mock the US for being dumb… that’s fair. Fentanyl addicts are typically victims of the system though. You’re mocking the wrong part.

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    Among all the things you can mock the USA for, this is probably pretty low on the list …

    Besides, King Trump would love to throw addicts in camps. Only the poor ones, obviously.

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      I mean, as a Latin American I have my serious issues with drugs, naturally. Both as a market and industry, as well as a product that harms people.

      But I do think the US deserves to be heavily criticised for their hypocritical stance on both normalising and providing minimal support to prevent drug consumption or addiction, as well as crying about drug production, creating extreme violence and abuse which only affects them minimally and instead externalises the violence and conflict to third parties.

      So, I think rather than mocking the addicts, these videos are mocking what Greenland would become if they fell under US administration. A country that allows its citizens to rot under drug addiction and blames everyone else but themselves for it.

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    Seems in poor taste to make fun of some of the most tragic parts of our society imo

    Edit: I’m not saying that some sort of protest or criticism of America is not warranted, I definitely think it is. I’m saying doing so by making fun of the most vulnerable people in our society, that the system has failed the most, is in poor taste and comes off as punching down at the victims of the system rather than punching up at the system itself.

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      It’s equally poor taste to threaten to invade a country, which will likely end in exactly that aspect of your culture being imported there first, because this will lead to the local population losing their universal healthcare, free education, their workers’ rights, and their social security.

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          Becoming those people is literally what’s in store for the population of Greenland, if the invasion threats come true. So it’s very well their right to make fun of the culture that will give them this great gift, and of the gift itself.

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            Until these past few weeks, I had the impression that places outside of the US were more informed than the MAGA voters in the US. You’re yet another example of why I was wrong.

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          The poorest tend to be rural conservative morons who are absolutely threatening everyone by voting for Trump and continuing to vote for the GOP in general.

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        Trump isn’t a fentanyl addict. He’s literally the only person who was making threats about invading Greenland. Trump is disgusting; but he’s not a fentanyl addict. Do not put such a shame on fentanyl addicts by comparing them to him.

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        Mocking the part of the population the was made addicted because the president is an asshole??? Mock the president…

        It’s like mocking Venezuelan people for being poor.

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        So why would you make fun of the people also effected by that? It just seemed like mistargeted aggression

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      So you wouldn’t say that a society should be judged on how it treats its most vulnerable members?

      Also, if the threat of invasion isn’t enough to warrant a clapback, what the heck is?

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        I didn’t say either of those things. I said it’s in poor taste to specifically make fun of the most vulnerable people in a society in your clapback.

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          I’d love it if we could ask those vulnerable people what they think about this video instead of us pretending to know what they feel or be offended on their behalf. If only we could do that, ask them how they feel about Greenland, it’s probably first on their mind when they wake up in their cardboard box on the curb.