Where’s all the people who read a headline like “Mamdani inherits NYPD surveillance state” and respond with SEE HE’S JUST LIKE THE REST OF THEM now
This is an internal document discussing the demands of one working group of the DSA (not the whole org). It doesn’t have anything to do with Mamadani other than him being the person who might eventually receive those demands.
He’s the mayor and part of the DSA so I’d say it has at least as much to do with him as him meeting with some shithead Democrat and being asserted as being literally Hitler for it
with some shithead Democrat and being asserted as being literally Hitler for it
arguing with someone who doesn’t exist, my friend. nobody’s saying anything close to literal Hitler. this is a majority ML site with a lot of global south users, while some discussions about this get a little too needlessly hostile skepticism about the electoralist darling of the day should be expected here
alright lemme preface this by saying: i think his win is a net good for the US left & working class! i’ve posted my own (pristine, if i may say so myself ) analysis on this twice elsewhere on the site. the short version is it creates an opening to energize people toward doing more irl organizing shit. that said:
communists on this site are cynical about the Democrats because either A) they’ve been through this twice with Bernie, been through this with AOC, even been through it with Obama (though he never claimed to be socialist) etc., and have learned lessons about strategy and tactics from these experiences that are backed by history and theory which foreclose Democratic entryism as useful, or B) they’re from countries the capitalist class in the US have immiserated, with the Democratic party serving as a key tool of this immiseration. and you see a large subset of users on hexbear trying to convince others that the most meaningful way forward from this is to elect more Zohran’s through a bourgeois party that has (accurately) been called “the graveyard of social movements.” my investment in posting about this shit is 1) that posting feels good on a hedonistic level and i’m addicted to it but also 2) that i want any hexbears who end up doing shit irl to avoid this dead end entryist trap.
i mean some of our more grass touching users have even posted about non-electoral shit that people can get involved in recently and they don’t tend to get much engagement vs Zohran stuff. i think that shows something about the thinking of this (niche, ultimately low-impact) forum.
I’ve learned to brush it off and stay positive. I’m skeptical as well but hopefully that this time will be different. NYC DSA has real numbers behind them so 🤞
I’d say it has at least as much to do with him as him meeting with some shithead Democrat
In this scenario Mamdani is at least personally involved in the events being discussed.
The image in this post isn’t anything from Mamdani. It’s about something that some people are planning on asking Mamdani to do. They’re good things to ask him to do, but until he’s actually asked and he actually does them they’re just wishes.
Yeah but the same could be said for literally any number of things that had people shidding and farding over how he’s AOC again, people were declaring all kinds a shit already and he’s still not even in office
Where’s all the people who read a headline like “Mamdani inherits NYPD surveillance state” and respond with SEE HE’S JUST LIKE THE REST OF THEM now
Granted nothing has fucking happened yet but still, that doesn’t stop the comments when MAMDANI BAD
This is an internal document discussing the demands of one working group of the DSA (not the whole org). It doesn’t have anything to do with Mamadani other than him being the person who might eventually receive those demands.
He’s the mayor and part of the DSA so I’d say it has at least as much to do with him as him meeting with some shithead Democrat and being asserted as being literally Hitler for it
arguing with someone who doesn’t exist, my friend. nobody’s saying anything close to literal Hitler. this is a majority ML site with a lot of global south users, while some discussions about this get a little too needlessly hostile skepticism about the electoralist darling of the day should be expected here
That’s the level of “skepticism” (cynicism) ive seen so far
alright lemme preface this by saying: i think his win is a net good for the US left & working class! i’ve posted my own (pristine, if i may say so myself
) analysis on this twice elsewhere on the site. the short version is it creates an opening to energize people toward doing more irl organizing shit. that said:
communists on this site are cynical about the Democrats because either A) they’ve been through this twice with Bernie, been through this with AOC, even been through it with Obama (though he never claimed to be socialist) etc., and have learned lessons about strategy and tactics from these experiences that are backed by history and theory which foreclose Democratic entryism as useful, or B) they’re from countries the capitalist class in the US have immiserated, with the Democratic party serving as a key tool of this immiseration. and you see a large subset of users on hexbear trying to convince others that the most meaningful way forward from this is to elect more Zohran’s through a bourgeois party that has (accurately) been called “the graveyard of social movements.” my investment in posting about this shit is 1) that posting feels good on a hedonistic level and i’m addicted to it but also 2) that i want any hexbears who end up doing shit irl to avoid this dead end entryist trap.
i mean some of our more grass touching users have even posted about non-electoral shit that people can get involved in recently and they don’t tend to get much engagement vs Zohran stuff. i think that shows something about the thinking of this (niche, ultimately low-impact) forum.
I’ve learned to brush it off and stay positive. I’m skeptical as well but hopefully that this time will be different. NYC DSA has real numbers behind them so 🤞
In this scenario Mamdani is at least personally involved in the events being discussed.
The image in this post isn’t anything from Mamdani. It’s about something that some people are planning on asking Mamdani to do. They’re good things to ask him to do, but until he’s actually asked and he actually does them they’re just wishes.
Yeah but the same could be said for literally any number of things that had people shidding and farding over how he’s AOC again, people were declaring all kinds a shit already and he’s still not even in office
People were mainly talking about things he said and did. And no one was calling him Hitler. We’ll see soon how well he does.