alright lemme preface this by saying: i think his win is a net good for the US left & working class! i’ve posted my own (pristine, if i may say so myself ) analysis on this twice elsewhere on the site. the short version is it creates an opening to energize people toward doing more irl organizing shit. that said:
communists on this site are cynical about the Democrats because either A) they’ve been through this twice with Bernie, been through this with AOC, even been through it with Obama (though he never claimed to be socialist) etc., and have learned lessons about strategy and tactics from these experiences that are backed by history and theory which foreclose Democratic entryism as useful, or B) they’re from countries the capitalist class in the US have immiserated, with the Democratic party serving as a key tool of this immiseration. and you see a large subset of users on hexbear trying to convince others that the most meaningful way forward from this is to elect more Zohran’s through a bourgeois party that has (accurately) been called “the graveyard of social movements.” my investment in posting about this shit is 1) that posting feels good on a hedonistic level and i’m addicted to it but also 2) that i want any hexbears who end up doing shit irl to avoid this dead end entryist trap.
i mean some of our more grass touching users have even posted about non-electoral shit that people can get involved in recently and they don’t tend to get much engagement vs Zohran stuff. i think that shows something about the thinking of this (niche, ultimately low-impact) forum.
I’ve learned to brush it off and stay positive. I’m skeptical as well but hopefully that this time will be different. NYC DSA has real numbers behind them so 🤞
That’s the level of “skepticism” (cynicism) ive seen so far
alright lemme preface this by saying: i think his win is a net good for the US left & working class! i’ve posted my own (pristine, if i may say so myself
) analysis on this twice elsewhere on the site. the short version is it creates an opening to energize people toward doing more irl organizing shit. that said:
communists on this site are cynical about the Democrats because either A) they’ve been through this twice with Bernie, been through this with AOC, even been through it with Obama (though he never claimed to be socialist) etc., and have learned lessons about strategy and tactics from these experiences that are backed by history and theory which foreclose Democratic entryism as useful, or B) they’re from countries the capitalist class in the US have immiserated, with the Democratic party serving as a key tool of this immiseration. and you see a large subset of users on hexbear trying to convince others that the most meaningful way forward from this is to elect more Zohran’s through a bourgeois party that has (accurately) been called “the graveyard of social movements.” my investment in posting about this shit is 1) that posting feels good on a hedonistic level and i’m addicted to it but also 2) that i want any hexbears who end up doing shit irl to avoid this dead end entryist trap.
i mean some of our more grass touching users have even posted about non-electoral shit that people can get involved in recently and they don’t tend to get much engagement vs Zohran stuff. i think that shows something about the thinking of this (niche, ultimately low-impact) forum.
I’ve learned to brush it off and stay positive. I’m skeptical as well but hopefully that this time will be different. NYC DSA has real numbers behind them so 🤞