It’s the disrespect what irks me
FUUUUUUCK HR. Hot take, HR are cops. The whole lot of them are class traitors who only work to serve their masters.
that’s not even a hot take that’s just demonstrably true. Except I think HR might be able to held liable if they learn of some fucked up shit and don’t do anything
Literally just the job equivalent of insurance companies.
Telling people “no” when they need life-saving resources isn’t a job.
Damn that’s a good point, I’m stealing that
our HR person at work is chill though
HR are only workers in the sense that management are workers. HR is actually just a new subdivision of management that does the least fun parts of the job while also providing the illusion that anyone in that role at the company has your back.
Any time someone says, “go to HR with that problem, it sounds serious” just remember that HR is almost definitely passing along everything you say to your managers.
Do not trust the HR staff, they will betray you!
I think a lot of HR people fall victim to the thinking that if you just work hard enough and have good enough ideas you can change the system from within, and then they become the system
It only takes a year or so on the job before they cover up egregious things by management and make workers distraught via discipline and firings. The apparent “true believers” are mostly just putting on a show with fake smiles and enthusiasm and if it is in a larger meeting the true audience for this is management, showing off how well they can manipulate the workers (even if they are, in reality, failing to do this).
Yes, but it also definitely extends past HR.
ever gotten the job offer after three interviews and then got ghosted? yeah, thats a new thing…
I have. It sucked.
This period of silence could have been an email
Some companies have started to call the department People instead of HR
, including the one I work for, where the main HR person also has the title of People Business Partner 
Anyway, is it an actionable threat to say any HR person who uses those snake oil personality tests should be beaten with a tire iron?
I prefer a girdle, but you got ahead.
Well, it’s not targeted at a user, a specific identifiable living individual, or a specific identifiable organization, it doesn’t appear to be a plan or confession, and I don’t really think it’s illegal. A little iffy on the encouraging others, but I think it’s fine.
“should” and vague group doing a lot of work making that not actionable.
ppl who work in hr should be ground into a meat paste and fed to dogs
poor dogs don’t deserve such gruel
I’m in the position that I hate my job so damn much, but the process of applying for new ones also fills me with rage and is a very degrading process. Which hate will win out?
When the revolution comes, HR workers will not be spared
After the hell of these last couple years, we will have an officer to determine who gets resources and that officer will intentionally play dumb, be arbitrarily picky, or just outright avoidant when an HR person wants any resources.
“Thank you for your interest in housing. Unfortunately, we have soooooo many choices on who to house, we just had to pick someone else! Maybe you need to have some more experience in not being a piece of shit?”
“Maybe someone else will house you in a couple years! Keep at it!”
lol they just shouldn’t get a call back
I had a job refused because some bs IA thought my code, even though working perfectly, was only 80% in readability and they wanted 90%.
My backup plan is proletarian expropriation.
Humans are not resources!
Have a new spin on this one, got an in person job interview and the interview ghosted, when I tried to reschedule the automated system was like ‘you weren’t selected’, well, don’t give respect don’t get none.
On FB I see HR absolutely reveling in the fact they are life and death decision makers, one lady who’s an absolute abomination piece of shit customer at work was murdering someone on facebook accusing them of having a shitass resume and assuming the local job center offers resume review services spoiler: they don’t, and assumed if you were in a bad job it was 100pct your fault, your resume’s fault, and that most people can’t function as adults because they can’t write a resume. IRL I watched her make some young dude cry at the Dollar Tree while in line because he was job hunting and having trouble and figured she’d be helpful as a head HR figure, noep.
HR people are petty bourgeois, they are bureaucrats controlling other people’s labour and they identify with the ideology of the bourgeoisie.
HR people are petty bourgeois
No they are not. The petite bourgeois doesn’t refer to “Workers who are shitty”, it refers to people who own the means of production but also have to participate in labour like shopkeepers, artisans or small business owners.
In reality there’s a multidimensional gradient of class characters, we just focus on one dimension between proletarian and bourgeoisie and divvy it up into discrete categories. On this dimension, individuals fall somewhere between the two extremes. When there is a single owner that just makes money by owning stuff, well yeah that is bourgeois. Though most owners do try to meddle more than that, we don’t always call them workers or petty bourgeois because they are primarily owners. Similarly, a worker may monitor a team and it’s performance and report this up the chain. This person is not solely prole in their relations, they are also fulfilling a part of the bourgeois role, but they may not have any ownership stake or control. We call them a worker because their relations are primarily as a worker.
But in between there is a lot to investigate. Management tends to be paid in wages and not a substantial portion of ownership, but we do practically separate them from the proles in general because their allegiance is to the owners and they act accordingly. A given manager’s role might be 50% organizing production (a prole role) and 50% monitoring workers and driving down variable capital costs (an owner’s role). Even though they don’t make money directly from ownership, their own position and wages are predicated on ensuring that gravy trains jeeps moving to the owners.
It is not invalid to say these people have a petty bourgeois character, which is a mixture of owner relations and worker relations. This is the same sense in which many professionals and academics are described as such. Their own relations to production create an alignment with the owner class rather than the working class.
To be super clear, both definitions of petty bourgeois have been defined and used by Marx and those in his orbit. The owner-workers (like a small shop owner) and those akin to management.
HR are most analogous to cops
It is not in any work of Marx I have read and as far as I can remember. I can remember him talking about small capitalists which are shopkeeps and artisans. You appear to be describing a combination of the professional-managerial class and the labour aristocracy.
Marx and Engels talk of the labor aristocracy as a bourgeois-ified working class of dual character. Sometimes they call this the middle class. Not long after Lenin and those similarly critical of the British and German revolutionary potentials described these relations as petty bourgeois, and this continued throughout the Bolsheviks to include basic all subsequent Marxist Leninists, Trotskyists, Maoists, etc., and even modern folks that just call themselves Marxist.
The PMC is a much later term. It’s from the 70s. But they are definitely described in their own way by Marx et al in their early form.
