The concept of Anarchist Gatekeeping is mind-blowingly ironic.
On the one hand, I’ve long said that Skater kids who can’t define Anarchy scrawling the symbol on bus stops in sharpie never does us any favors, on the other hand the top comment isn’t wrong
back in the day our university had anarchist intellectual club. it consisted solely of tenured left-leaning professors who talked shit about their place of work while staying at work after hours to massage their egos and also first-year edgelords saying inspirational quotes from social media. it was funny as fuck to sit at their meet-ups and listen to their empty posturing. if you wanted to decompress and take it easy - that was the place.
…you’re trolling me, right?
I have a fridge magnet letter “A” perched in my butthole goaste style. Wonder what that means?
Anal without Rules
*rulers
No rulers = not straight?
> “Order Without Rulers”
> drawn with a compass and rulerAh, but ask yourself this: is that ruler ruling over you, or are you ruling the ruler, effectively making that ruler a ruler in name only?
its not a ruler, it’s a collab with straight edge!
It’s bittersweet to think that this comment will never get the recognition it deserves for being genius, but at least I was here to see it.
Don’t cry because it’s over, smile because it happened.
I only go for ISO 9001 certified anarchy.
:2000, or :2015?
Going to stop scrolling now because this is it
Reminds me of how the peace symbol came from an N and D for nuclear disarmament, similar aestheticl
For those who also couldn’t figure it out in your head, it’s apparently semaphore.
the aesthetics on the right are better. don’t gatekeep my penmanship
The left one makes me think the Fantastic Four are known as the Avengers in one of those infinite alternate realities we haven’t seen yet.
Honestly, they both have an appeal. The left is better for most organizations and looking official. The right has more of a “fuck the system” je ne sais quoi. At a protest? Use the right. Printing out pamphlets? Use the left.
Personally I’m more of a skull and crossbones a la Anarchist Ukraine type of guy for official stuff. Also harkens back to the golden age of piracy which is always great.
Eh, the golden age of piracy was just a state sponsored private military trade war. It’s fun for media, but it isn’t what I’d wish for. They weren’t free to do whatever they want. They got paid by states to attack the ships from other states. More anarcho-capitalism than any good form of Anarchism.
Not to say I dislike the symbol or anything. I’m just pointing out that the golden age of piracy probably isn’t what we want to appeal to as Anarchists.
You’re thinking of privateers. Pirates were usually on the bottom wrong of society in an occupation were they could face an enormous amount of abuse if the Captain or Officers were tyrants. Lots of pirates started out as mutineers.
If someone handed me a pamphlet with the left one on it, I’d assume they were a cop.
Greetings fellow lover of anarchy! Here’s a pamphlet about our local anarchist club. Also, have a free Glacier Freeze Gatorade. If you haven’t had a chance, don’t forget to stop by the Antifa™ tent and sign up for their official newsletter.
Strong disagree but I’m not about to piss on anyone’s personal parade, I wish you enjoyment of your preferred aesthetic.
It’s “scrawled” on walls, not “sprawled”
It depends on the size and medium
Does one scrawl or sprawl poo?
Diarrhea + sneeze = sprawl
Diarrhea + dragging one’s bottom across the floor = scrawl
The booty scooty probably works better when you’re pooping solids. I imagine it’s like using pastels.
According to my Nurse Practitioner wife… Yes unfortunately.
Woo account with a caduceus staff background and some new age star of david airs their bias regarding anarchy symbols
DSA lib doubles down on the opinion to imagine a scenario where anarchists behave hypocritically
Yeah I guess this accurately sums up how it feels to be an anarchist on the internet.
So many tears are being shed.
I mean, you can do whatever you want.
Part of Anarchy is understanding and accepting that that is a true for all individual life regardless of any laws or guideline.
Consequences come after actions and do not stop committing to an action.
But the more important part is taking this knowledge and asking ourselves, how can we deal with this fact and build a society that respects it while maintaining order?
Part of Anarchy is understanding and accepting that that is a true for all individual life regardless of any laws or guideline.
I feel like this is the crux that I’ve seen people disregarding too often. They know how to make the perfect society, and it only requires everyone else having the same exact ideology and priorities that they do.
Every time I see someone advocating for anarchy on Lemmy (which is a lot), it comes down to “well if everyone works together in harmony and also there are no neighboring states with imperialist intentions, then everything will be great!”. If everyone was perfectly altruistic then literally any government form would work - capitalism, communism, even fascism.
hii, please do not let lemmy comments form your understanding of anarchism. it seems that gave you some wrong ideas. anarchists are not naive or idealistic about people and hierarchical structures.
if you want to learn about anarchism, i can recommend a few video essays which might give you a better understanding of anarchism and might answer your criticism.
- an introduction to anarchism - anark
- human nature - anark
- how would anarchism defend itself? - anark
(full disclosure, i havent watched these videos in a while, and mostly picked them, because i vaguely remember them talking about the topics you mentioned)
all of these videos are by the same person. i think they make some of the best videos about anarchist theory that i know, (and videos are a easy way to get into new things), while also being active on the ground as an anarchist organiser, being able to measure their ideas against their lived reality. i hope you will consider what they have to say
take care :3
Fascism heavily implies one group specificly not being altruistic. Anarchy is just the trust that we could someday have a society based in kindnes and cooperation. If we could have a try. There are already well working anarchosyndical comunes around the world.
Regardless of semantics, it would “work” if it’s what 100% of the population supported and worked towards. Obviously that’s not the case in reality, but the same applies to anarchism. Anarchism (edit: and fascism, just to be clear) are uniquely vulnerable to bad actors when the reality sets in that not everyone is going to be well intentioned.
Also from a geo-political perspective, anarchism would be exceptionally easy for neighbors with bad intentions (think Russia) to take advantage of.
I don’t understand why people think this is the case, anarchy doesn’t mean we let shit people do shit things. We still fight back, we still kick them out of our communities and we still protect one another. Real world anarchy has a pretty strong history of fighting back and keeping itself safe, the Zapatista still exist, the Spanish anarchists basically just lost a war and that’s not exactly a problem unique to anarchism…
It’s no more vulnerable than other societal structures, it’s significantly less so given the way that corruption is much much hard to get away with given that individual people can’t hold positions of power, only positions of responsibility which may be taken from them at any moment.
It’s not it “would work if,” it does work.
Spanish anarchists lost the war because they were disorganized and vulnerable to external pressure (competing political parties like the Communists at the time) which was half my original point.
Zapatistas exist in the single poorest state in Mexico, which is not exactly a ringing endorsement of the “ideal government form” as many here apparently believe.
I’m having too good of a day to argue about this so believe what you will, it’s no skin off my back. But I’ll say that being poor is not the same thing as being crushed by external forces, I never mentioned anything about anarchy making people rich. Anyway, wealth is literally a meaningless metric to those of us who don’t want or believe in money.
The case of the Spanish collectives is a lot more nuanced than that. Regardless, acting as if being disorganised is a result of anarchism is just silly.
Like I said believe what you want but again, there’s no reason anarchy is any less susceptible to external forces than anything else. It’s just about structuring society and giving a shit about people.
They’re not wrong, but the edgelord comparison and the gatekeeping are just bad.
This guy explains it better than I ever could.
Imagine gatekeeping anarchy…
Anarchy means I can do whatever I want, including gatekeeping anarchy itself. That being said, that Rothmus guy is just an unprincipled right-libertarian, and of course he aggrees with fashy abortion bans to “punish the whores for not using condoms”. The whole “prostitutes are using regular abortions as their primary form of birth control” is a lie likely invented by Hungarian far-right blogger and failed gamedev Tamás “Tomcat” Polgár.
You can’t make me!
Yeah I’m gonna imagine birds instead
they oversimplified the anarchist logo smh my head………
Isotype anarchy symboll
One of these things is fundamentally harder to scrawl on a bathroom wall.
