Ha ha noooo dont look at history bro, it doesn’t provide road maps bro, trust me ha ha, we dont want full communism, just socialism bro
Don’t organize, disperse
That’s why the cops show up at protests with bullhorns yelling “please organize. This is an unlawful assembly, organize or you will be organized by force”
Unlawful disassembly
Excellent bit
Workers of the World, Disperse!
The first two are your basic SocDem’s thinking their real socialist.
That last one is straight up fed propaganda wtf.
“nothing to see here, move along” -Vladimir Trump
: This is NUANCE that you don’t get from either political aisle! We need a good balance of BOTH SIDES!!! 
Don’t need to invoke feds saying this stuff, this sort of shit is taught in every school in the western world, trying to separate “socialism” and “communism” and trying to paint “socialism” as like the Nordic countries while “communism” is when evil dictator.
Oh yeah, I’m a social democrat!
In the context that Lenin used that term in back in 1905 or so.
We can play with terminology just like these nuts do, y’know! It’s surprisingly fun!
I feel like a lot of the socdem propaganda is intentional judo-ing radicalized liberals away from socialism, otherwise they would just reject the socialism label.
i consider myself a vegan but i eat bacon every morning.
“I’ve been a vegan for 22 years. At this point, I’m so vegan that I mainly just eat a little bacon every morning to keep my cast iron seasoned. And I use my cast iron to make eggs and steak at night. But yah, I’m a vegan spiritually. Like, a vegan who thinks meat is for all, you know? Like if we could use the meat to feed the hungry vegans of the world.”
I read through one of the Victims of Communism/YouGov collaboration polls and an equivalent one in the UK, the ones fretting about the rise of socialism these days. Now, obviously there is a lot of garbage in them, and while their own “correct” definition of socialism/communism is absolutely silly (it’s when the government does stuff!), you quickly discover that most of the people polled have no idea what those words mean, with common responses being:
- socialism is when pro-society, social
- socialism is compatible with capitalism
- everyone gets paid the same
- etc.
And I’ve seen a couple of those US street polling videos echo that result.
you quickly discover that most of the people polled have no idea what those words mean
As of 2023 among 18-34 year olds this bourgeois institute finds:
29% of 18-34s in the UK support Communism
53% of 18-34s in the UK support Socialism
39% of 18-34s asked to define Socialism define it correctly
57% of 18-34s define socialism as the government providing more services
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/commentary/new-poll-finds-strong-support-socialism-uk
The figure for the number of people that correctly define socialism in this country is higher than you think. I don’t think these figures are something to doom about it, they’re very good actually.
Definitely nothing to doom about. Dooming like that is silly online-left junk anyway.
And even if hypothetically it was only 5% having a reasonable definition, the simple fact that 53% identify support for socialism and nearly a third identify with communism is useful and far better than one might have assumed. I went out drinking last month with random young adult strangers from a public event and of a group of 5, four of us revealed we were socialists. Wasn’t even in a particularly progressive area.
far better than one might have assumed
It’s extremely positive for our future. This is the reason we’ve seen things like anti-capitalist text get banned in schools. They KNOW that socialism is wildly popular among the next generations and it scares them. They’re willing to take the country into a black period of reaction in order to crack down on it. The turn we’re seeing towards support for farage and the far right in the media is in my opinion a pre-emptive strike driven by their fears socialists are gaining popular support. Their fears aren’t mistaken if the numbers are accurate too.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
i could see the first tweet not being a Fed just because Americans in particular don’t know fuck dick all about anything related to political ideology
“I don’t want to abolish capitalism I just want to use its good parts”
That’s called socialism you fucking nerd that’s why they didn’t think the revolution could succeed without industrialization first.
Using it as a stepping stone to something better is the whole point.
Marx and Lenin both talk about the “socialization of labor”, meaning capitalist society successfully organized labor on a mass scale previous economic orders had failed to, and that socialism needed to take over that process.
I’m as left as they come but capitalism is good actually.
“the fruits of capitalism”
mfer systems do not create things, people do
I do not want to end the systematic theft, I simply want to spend some of the stolen wealth on things that might benefit you.
People made fun of the last one for being an underpaid zero effort fedpost but the op was out there in every single qrt arguing the point. Commitment to the bit. Absolutely angling for that raise.
Bit idea: post like this guy
“this has been a very impressive and productive meeting so far, but I think we need to return to the outdoor cats issue before we make any decisions”
“I don’t want full-on socialism like those Scandanavian countries, but something more moderate and sensible.”
“…like florida”
“Socialism wouldn’t work in the US, the country is too big compared to Norway or Switzerland”
USSR, well known small country.
I imagine that the strawman I just invented would say that this wasn’t real socialism
