I mean, there are cultural aspects of this that I have to really immerse myself in because I’m not Japanese. It feels almost a little invasive to be telling the story from their perspective, but what the hell? Somebody’s got to tell the story, and I’m not going to tell it from a jingoistic, nationalistic American perspective, because I don’t want to deal with all the sociopolitical aspects of, should it have been dropped, all that stuff. I don’t want to deal with that.
I’ve got to be very careful about it not being an indictment of the people who dropped the bomb. I think the message needs to be, this thing happened. It happened to real people. Let’s not go into why it happened and who was to blame and all that sort of thing. But let’s just take that as a moment in history frozen in amber that we need to learn from. We need to cherish that memory, because that memory might just keep us alive.
How can you learn from something without understanding why it happened?
The next level of shoot and cry is shoot and I wasn’t even there. I was sleeping
I guess Hiroshima just did that 
You thought Great Man Theory Oppenheimer was bad?
Get ready for Apolitical Hiroshima! Coming soon to an Academy Awards near you!
And the liberals of your country will cry while watching it
That’s exactly what these kind of movies are for, so liberals can consume “history” in a safe manner and making a kind of faux-atonement for the sins of the empire, immediately followed by the reconciliation with the empire. That last part is the most important one. “See we care! We’re not like the other empires. We talk about it.”
Basically the American zeitgeist doing
Funny thing is that liberals from the global south also cry to it. I’ve seen it myself and it’s deeply embarrassing.
It is!
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Let’s not go into why it happened and who was to blame and all that sort of thing. But let’s just take that as a moment in history frozen in amber that we need to learn from.
If he’s not going to get into why it happened, who’s responsible, then what the hell are we supposed to be learning from it?
Learning how to give James Cameron an Oscar
Put it at the bottom of the ocean
Amber.
then what the hell are we supposed to be learning from it?
Boom shit go hard, big pimples. I sad, feel better now?
Bad things happen. Let’s not get into why or all that superfluous stuff like historical context.
God he’s a lib
viewers learned that using WMDs on civilian population centers is horrific but also that it was a thing that just happened devoid of any ethical judgement
this sounds like the state of liberal thought at the moment: “fascism is bad when it affects us, otherwise it is just the background noise of our glorious hegemony, and that’s just the normalcy of international rules based order”
I mean, it’s consistent with how liberal history textbooks are written, just a bunch of bullet points of things that happened in that particular order. Maybe some cushioning about how those people felt and things that they believed at that time, but that’s about it.
Just a reminder but Cameron also made True Lies; in it, the terrorist Salim Abu Aziz literally mentions that America bombs his country, killing women and kids. Cameron literally wrote a villain with an actual grievance to be nothing more than a cookie cutter villain. The horrific things being done to people in non-Western countries are treated as just things that happen.
True lies is an all-timer for unironically, uncomplicatedly correct villains
When there is so many cases of questionable ethical judgement the don’t get to hide behind that shit.
fuck, and here I thought he might have a shred of fucking sense, but no
This is consistent with Cameron, when the first Avatar came out and was a smash hit, some Leftist interviewer asked him does he see the similarities between the movie Avatar and Palestine. Palestinians even painted themselves all blue and peacefully marched. Cameron gave the same weak ass response.
Don’t expect celebs to be some anti-imperialist leftist unless they outright claim themselves one, like Boots. REM was the latest big disappointment when they wanted to raise funds for Radio Free Europe when Trump cut funds to USAID.
I think anyone who is in a position to become rich and influential like a celebrity is probably someone who either supports the status quo and never thinks about it, or was more radical when they were younger, but have turned to worshipping the dollar since then and know that if they are too “extreme” they can get blacklisted by the people who will happily work alongside known pedophiles for years.
Yes. Relevant quote: “It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” - Upton Sinclair, 1935.
I hate liberals so much. If you’re not blaming the ones who committed the atrocity, then who???
He goes on about the care he thinks he’s taking to tell this from the perspective of Japan, acknowledges that it’s pretty invasive to do that (!!!), then says he can’t blame the people who did this to Japan.
I’ve got to be very careful about it not being an indictment of the people who dropped the bomb. I think the message needs to be, this thing happened. It happened to real people. Let’s not go into why it happened and who was to blame and all that sort of thing. But let’s just take that as a moment in history frozen in amber that we need to learn from. We need to cherish that memory, because that memory might just keep us alive.
Amber.
All the Avatar dickriders owe me money. Horrible phenomenon.
I’ll admit I was more charitable towards the Avatar movies than I otherwise would’ve been in part because our culture is so incredibly fascist that even the most basic “imperialism bad” story is a breath of fresh air even with all of cameron’s mindworms infesting it.
Knowing that he’s trying to make an “apolitical Hiroshima” movie makes me question everything he’s ever done
Edit: I was blinded by the spectacle of american marines being skewered like kebabs and whalers being dismembered
The space american boots getting perforated was the best part but it’s still very white-savior and I can’t get over it sadly
That week or two on hexbear where everybody was unironically praising the Avatar films as anticolonial masterpieces was baffling
Taking a road trip to Will Meneker’s house so I can rub it in his “it’s making some people on twitter mad therefore it’s actually good” face.
“baffling” is the right word. I don’t love his writing all the time but I’m fully onboard with Walter Chaw’s bone-deep hatred for these movies.
Thank you for reminding me of the existence of walter chaw and filmfreakcentral.
same stuff is happening with superman right now
the movie hasn’t even come out lol
hexbears and flying off the handle because a headline validated whatever personal feelings they have about something lmao
So 2 hours of a tight camera shot of a bomb being moved around until it falls from a plane and explodes?
No wait, it’s James Cameron. 3 hours.
No wait, it’s James Cameron. 3 hours.
He’s in negotiations for a three film franchise but his goal was five.
God he’s such a cowardly lib, here I thought he might be kinda ok but “telling the story of Hiroshima without assigning blame”!?
Fucking useless. “I’m not here to make a judgement about wiping out cities in the blink of an eye, I’m just trying to say what happened”
Also the whole “I’m not American so it won’t be a jingoistic pro-america piece” can fuck right off, he’s Canadian and they’re all basically American
Listen the important thing isn’t what drove America to commit this atrocity (trying to one up Stalin after the Russians defeated the Germans and they were coming for the Japanese next. America couldn’t have Russia win the war on two fronts so they used the atom bomb to show the soviets their military capabilities whilst bringing the war to a close on Americas terms).
The important thing with this story is lots of shots of Asian people with their eyeballs melting down their chared faces and screaming burned children and poignant shots of mothers outside evicerated schools.
That’s where the Oscar is.
Empathy is our superpower… the lessons of America’s use of the atomic bomb in World War II
Hmm… In a single bombing raid over Tokyo - ~100,000 Japanese people were killed and a million left homeless due to a horrific slaughter due to firebombing. Not only did it feature conventional weapons - it was worse than the attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined.
I think there’s a bigger lesson here and by-and-large Americans are totally unaware of the event.
Bombing of Tokyo (10 March 1945)
On the night of 9/10 March 1945, the United States Army Air Forces (USAAF) conducted a devastating firebombing raid on Tokyo, the Japanese capital city. This attack was code-named Operation Meetinghouse by the USAAF and is known as the Tokyo Great Air Raid (東京大空襲, Tōkyō dai-kūshū) in Japan. Bombs, dropped from 279 Boeing B-29 Superfortress heavy bombers, burned out much of eastern Tokyo.
More than 90,000 and possibly over 100,000 Japanese people were killed, mostly civilians, and one million were left homeless, making it probably the most destructive single air attack in human history, including the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The Japanese air and civil defenses proved largely inadequate; 14 American aircraft and 96 airmen were lost.
Pretending that it was out of the goodness of their heart and not MAD that they dont use it more
It was all wooden housing :(
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Doesn’t sound like you’d have much of a story there, Jim.
If you cut together 90 minutes of explosions and show it in theaters, the burger brains will come
Its James Cameron. It’ll be 3 hours. And it will be the best selling movie ever somehow.
That’s a lot of words to say “jingoism is predicted to make the big bucks in the next few years, but I don’t want to openly admit that I’m just trying to profit of an atrocity.”
I don’t really think you can accuse him of just being after the profits if he’s making a film about Hiroshima instead of like avatar 4
Yeah, this is probably more clout chasing and trying to look good for “Caring about issues”
