The Soviet union. Yes. You have my permission to weep tankie. Go ahead.
Not only it destroyed American left by causing the red scare it also destroyed germany.
Lenin and co were a blight to the left. They destroyed peaceful democratic movements.
There would have been no red scare and america would have had good reforms. But evil stalin had to pose his totalitarian ideology.
Ww2 wouldn’t have happened. And probably nazis would have lost their soviet ally in the molotov tankie pact.
It permanently affected the electoral left and the tankie affected left kept looking to communist countries.
So there you go. You learned a very important thing today.
The line went down. That means its bad.
Nice of you to join us, Mr. Chomsky.
I was just emailing don’t know how I sent all this.
Sir c/badposting is over there
You go there pal. This is a khive forum. Its for strong silent types. Like gary cooper.
You joke but I have talked with an anarchist who said the Soviet Union set back the cause of achieving Communism by 200 years.
I don’t get his reasoning.
The fall of the Soviet Union maybe lol
Fret not. Kamala and hilldawg along with biden’s corpse will revitalize the left. Libbicrats ftw.
I can see it in a vacuum, if the argument is a failed attempt leads to a bigger setback than waiting for the perfect opportunity. It is a fallacy though, it assumes there would be a better revolutionary attempt and it assumes you’ll just accurately determine when is the perfect opportunity for the revolution which is a huge flaw in reasoning.
Things like WW2 changed the USSR’s path entirely, and WW2 itself got dozens of small to large scale events that could change history. I can imagine the world would be vastly different if Korea and Japan were unified socialist territories, the cold war without US nuking Japan etc…
I don’t think its wrong to say we are further away from world socialism in 2025 than we were in 1991 but in an alternative universe we would be sitting here waiting those same 100 years since 1917 for the revolution that never came, that is 100 of those 200 years already gone.
who the fuck is scraeming “Hic Rhodus” at my house.
show yourself, coward
i will never dance
How does that even work? Was the global proletariat about to do a big Communism, but the Bolsheviks went too early so everyone else gave up and went home? Global communism would’ve been achieved in 1923, but because the Bolsheviks won their revolution a few months early we all now have to wait until 2122 before we get communism?
you forget that Stalin and the NKVD personally lost the spanish civil war and if they weren’t there the glorious syndicalists would’ve rushed over the Francoist forces and united Spain and France in Good, White People Socialism.
why yes, I’ve played a lot of Kaiserreich how could you tell?
Wow such astute scholarly analysis. I’m sure all the tankies are epically owned now as they encounter real history.
you forgot perpetrating anti-semitism by hating on entity
Wow so true. That stalin, if he were alive today would have won the antisemite of the year award from stopantisemitism.
The worst thing to happen to the left was Gracchus’ agrarian reform, because it caused the optimates to start killing their opponents, actually!
worst type of gaius
sweet wine tribune much?
Actually, it’s you dear reader. Yes you. Were it not for your participation, climate stalin would have eaten every Oil exec
Nooooo not the smol bean oil exec. Political violence has no place in a libbicrat democracy.
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we had a good thing you stupid son of a bitch
