The parasites desire to return our lives to 19th century industrial revolution living standards where entire families lived in open communal basement spaces with only a broom closets worth of space to live in then immediately say your life is still better than the 19th century because at least you have hot chips, T.V., and a smartphone to doomscroll on.
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To them the dystopian part is that under communism it’s free, and they can’t charge rent for the beds
You have to remember that the Stalin-blocks had [minor inconvenience] and that basically made them unlivable.
This
yeah, definitely don’t need an immediate egress in case there’s a fire.
this is basically a prison cube, which I guess makes sense because that’s the endgame for the working class: an enternal work furloughed/carceral twilight, building, repairing and maintaining the mechanisms that oppress us.
Stand in place.
On program.
Feet down, face front, hands on heads.
Units not in compliance will have their floors activated without warning.This actually isn’t a half bad idea for a HOMELESS SHELTER and NOT for long-term living. Like I said as a stopgap to get at risk people off the streets and hold them until proper housing gets lined up is a pretty good idea, but ofc the parasite class will charge these as luxury condos instead.
Capitalists constantly fear-mongered about how this was the dystopian endgame of communism but will immediately turn around and present this as the market solution to homelessness under capitalism
There is no contradiction there. The dystopian part, to them, is that such conditions would be inflicted on people who don’t “deserve” it (PMC ghouls, small business tyrants, rich failchildren, &c.) If the poor and working class get crammed into human warehouses under capitalism, well, that’s just an objective and uncontestable assessment of their worth by the free market.
Never forget that liberals are idealists: they care about procedure, not results. It’s how they can say “you should support Israel because it’s the only democracy in the Middle East” while Israel is actively committing a genocide.
Not even a window… That makes it worse than the rooms I was in on sailboats, and on sailboats there is a good reason why everything is super cramped lol
Ah they’re bringing victorian era poor houses back. Sick. Fuckinnnnnn
They’d bring back imperial Roman era living standards for the working class if they could get away with it
I don’t know. Giving people bread and circuses for free sounds like communism.
From Parenti’s Rome book
It generally fucking sucked to be a prole in Rome. The bread and circuses were quite literally there to keep them from rioting over their squalid conditions
Oh! I never meant to imply that the proles had it good in ancient Rome. I was just predicting how reactionaries would take the idea of giving the proles something for free, even just a few crumbs of bread to keep them from revolting.
Chippies and netflix
They also want people to make children, unless they start promoting hardline non-monogamy it’s gonna be a problem
In the redpill pua shitheel spaces they tell you that you’re actually in the wrong if you like women or want to have a family, so they got some sectarian infighting to take care of if they want to create their hell on earth
“Haha look at the yellow man in yellow country, living in worker barracks where they have zero privacy and barely a locker for personal effects! Our country is so much better! Instead of living in yellow country, our worker barracks simply are yellow!”
They also cost you a fixed 30% of your monthly income instead of a fixed 3%!
In some places in America 30% is a good deal
So fucked that I wish mine was only 30% 😭
Which is why the market declares that 30% of your income for a bunk bed is fair!
Australian here, would bite your hand off for 30%. I pay more like 40-45% depending how much overtime I’m doing.
Plenty of Australians would kill for less than 50%
Yep, I’m gonna be one of them myself in a few months when my lease renews
MaCage Apartments.
You could easily give each person 150 ft² (15 m²) of their own private space, pretty much anywhere.
You’d just need to bend the building/zoning code, or expropriate some land, or demolish some sacrosanct parking spaces.
If a suite with one kitchen and one bathroom and 3 people’s private space takes up 750 ft², and you fit 12 suites per floor with 5 floors, you have 180 people on a building footprint of about 10750 ft² (1075 m²). If the lot is 3 times the area of building’s footprint, it is about 0.8 acres (0.325 ha), and you are able to fit 800 of these in a square mile, for a population density of about 144,000 people per square mile. Put a couple roads and parks in-between, and it’s still over 120k per square mile. This is not a crazy density, it doesn’t deprive anyone of fresh air or sunlight or green space or privacy or accessibility, yet it could fit the populations of the largest cities on earth within a radius of 8 miles.
And you could do this with 19th-century technology too! Keeping people in dark and cramped quarters has always been a choice.
I’ll be real with you the one thing I won’t compromise on in anything housing related it is having private bathrooms.
One of the pivots I made in the past couple years was on the ubiquity of plumbing. We can snicker about how “the Nacirema measure their status by the number and lavishness of their household shrines dedicated to obscuring and purifying what they see as the innate ugliness of the body”, but it really is a measurable aspect of enculturation.
It is a human need to be able to relieve yourself somewhere that is less than 2 minutes away, and also to be able to wash up somewhere reasonably close. After living in a commune where the toilets were all composting and the shower was gravity-fed from a rain barrel with black piping to warm it up with just the sun, I realized that turning a water faucet on ~50 times a day and having 150 feet of water pressure directed to every 100-m³-sized voxel are not really so essential. It takes a lot more consideration in construction to resolve putting water inside a building, when water is something that you’re typically trying to keep out of the building. We can build really elaborate structures to accommodate everyone, and they can either be cheap and last a long time, or we can run water all around the interior and have an emergency that pops up whenever it clogs or overflows or leaks.
I’m not saying you shouldn’t or can’t want your own bathroom, but it drives up the complexity, almost as much as someone saying “I don’t want anybody above me”. We spend a huge amount of resources on things that we don’t really need and that are prone to breaking down. One of the best examples of this is the analyses of how suburbs and exurbs are a net drain on public works. On a planet with finite resources, in the throes of late stage capitalism, we are going to have to respond to many problems and whether they will be solved by exclusive rights or access rights. After all, every demand we make about standards of living for each person translates to a certain amount of labor that someone must be compelled to do.
My conclusion was that I could have a good quality of life with a fraction of the water access that I grew up accustomed to, and maybe a fraction of the electricity access too. My baseline for exclusive rights is 4 walls with a bed, a desk, a chair, a window, enough space to stretch, and maybe a lamp.
theres nothing that’ll change a person’s mind quicker about having interior plumbing than living in arctic conditions. having to wade through snow just to take a shit in a -20 degree outhouse is a positively miserable experience with the only net positive is that its so cold it doesnt stink anymore. Being able to take a comfortable shit should be a human right and I’ll never budge on this issue.
No one said you had to hike outside a dwelling; you can achieve this with an earth-bermed extension with insulated windows and a covered walkway that wraps around the main building to it. (Yes, I’ve lived in snowy climates)
The question is whether you can provide for said comfortable shit by your own power, or if your lifestyle imposes a requirement upon someone else.
People have made gradual improvements to human-scale solutions for millenia; it’s actually easier to do without connecting it to a water main
I was curious about rent in San Diego while vacationing there recently and I ended up finding something sorta similar to what you’re describing. 98 sqft, furnished with shared bathrooms and showers, no mention of a kitchen. At 650 a month it was the most affordable thing I found.
This is a modern German prison cell.
Building/zoning laws are not the problem, they’re just a symptom of the real problem. The real problem is that the economic system we are part of doesn’t create value by building things, it generates value by denying things.
The largest impediment to affordable housing is the fact that it would detract from the value that current property owners created via artificial scarcity. The zoning laws and building codes are just one of many tools that property owners use to create value without ever having to invest in anything.
Right, they’re not the core of the problem, but they’re the thing you’re most likely to run into when you want to live outside the paradigm of “taking up a big expensive chunk of land for yourself and forcing everyone to drive a bit further by pushing them farther away”.
Norway has taken this approach, with private flats about that size with not much in terms of qualifying. Not sure if the program encompasses all homeless at this point or was just in certain cities
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I lived like that when I was in the Army and it just sucks in every way.
