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CoolerOpposide [none/use name]@hexbear.net to the_dunk_tank@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 years ago

China is destroying the environment destroying industry, but at what cost?

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China is destroying the environment destroying industry, but at what cost?

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CoolerOpposide [none/use name]@hexbear.net to the_dunk_tank@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 years ago
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  • a_blanqui_slate [none/use name, any]@hexbear.net
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    There’s some older work, specifically Maguire, T., Molina, A., et al (2004) building off of Lee, S. and Ditko, S. (1963) that looks at the disastrous societal consequences the unintended side effects that these ‘green energy drives’ can produce.

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      The solution to cars isn’t greener cars. It’s replacing cars with something else completely, like human powered vehicles or multi-passenger transport. /c/fuck_cars has the right idea

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        human powered vehicles

        This phrasing made by brain fly over bikes and land on Flintstones cars.

        • ikilledtheradiostar [comrade/them, love/loves]@hexbear.net
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          It’s because the car propaganda is so strong.

        • CombatLiberalism [he/him]@hexbear.net
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          yeonmi-park In Communist North Korea the passengers get out and push the trains

      • iridaniotter [she/her]@hexbear.net
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        Correct but that is not why the EU is doing this.

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        human powered vehicles

        I am pessimistically imagining Musk and Bezos carried in giant glitzy palanquins

        • FALGSConaut [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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          No no no, you gotta be optimistic about imagining Musk and Bezos being publically [redacted] by their palanquin bearers

        • envis10n [he/him]@hexbear.net
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          I read glitzy as glizzy

      • RyanGosling [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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        I agree, but we can’t replace cars entirely anyway, which is why prioritizing public transportation while also improving personal vehicles is what China does. It’s just that they’re making their cars affordable as well as their trains and buses, while Europeans get angry that their shit is so expensive

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        The solution is to not leave fusion investment in the tentacles of power-crazed cyborgs.

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          actually there are massive government research facilities into fusion power and France and the UK work with China on that one. It just hasn’t panned out yet

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            I actually worked on the US’ omnishambolic ICF project. Even they joke about it always being 20 years away.

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              The impression I got is that there is interest and funding it’s just very difficult

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                Well yes, the current issue is that the systems were designed way ahead of the computational power to assess how the plasma would behave in such conditions so dealing with fluid instabilities that arises from the most microscopic of target asymmetriea occupies the bulk of their time.

                If they had another 4 billion dollars to build the system entirely from scratch I actually think they could get fusion based on what they know now. But they don’t and it works for weapons complex integration with is in the end what the DOE cares about so yeah

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          Power-crazed cyborgs would never invest in that, it’s all government funded. Our benevolent technocratic overlords are like the pharma companies, they’ll just leap on it like rabid pitbulls after it’s developed to make as much money as possible

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      [stares at names for several minutes looking for the ligma-style joke]

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        Alfred Molina is real, he also went by Dr. Octopus after successfully defending his thesis on electronic mind-altering evil robot tentacle arms.

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          His work in that field set back public acceptance of electronic mind-altering evil robot tentacle arm decades.

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      Maguire, T., Molina, A., et al (2004)

      I’m having trouble finding this - do you have a link? I’m very interested in these types of studies. That conclusion matches other literature I have read but it would still be nice to read.

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        Yep here you go

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          damn it lol

          not a superhero person, totally missed it.

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