I’m looking forward to a random lib wandering into here. Does that even happen anymore? I hope it does.
They just downvote, we have
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Lmao oh no we’re so owned
Ah yes, the cowards choice
If you don’t have the cojones to disagree with words, I guess drive-by disapproval is the next best thing
What’s a downvote?
You probably wouldn’t feel the same way if it mentioned transphobia or maybe some other form of hate speech or discrimination so please, keep your insults to yourself. Also, how do you even downvote a post?
I can tell what you’re trying to say?
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What I’m saying is that this meme juxtaposes two issues that are on the same side of a coin and unnecessarily alienates people harmed by hate speech and discrimination. I get the point of the meme and I’m not attributing malice to anyone but there’s way better ways of getting the point across than this.
Too bad the Democrats are also trying to throw trans and other marginalized people under the bus in the hopes of getting conservatives to vote for them.
I think they are just doing it for the love of the game
Ok, thanks for listening. Never said anything about Democrats. I’m out.
The meme is about Democrats though? What are you talking about
Before I say anything, I am genuinely trying to understand you and not argue.
I’m confused at how you landed at the conclusion that you did about this meme. Can you explain your thought process to how you landed at your conclusion? I’m having a hard time connecting the dots and it’s confusing me.
Well, first of all, the meme conflates ‘rude’ with racist (which is weird) so it kind of suggests ‘rude’ is just a stand in for hate speech, so it attributes caring about hate speech and racism to liberalism.
The point of the meme is that liberals care more about hate speech (words as it’s being implied) and racism than killing children. I mean ok, but is it really necessary? On an overwhelmingly white site? It makes me feel extremely uncomfortable, especially when reactionary rhetoric would probably fall along the same lines. And the overlap between people who care about both things is much more significant than this would suggest
Maybe I’m just hysterical or not being charitable. I’m fine being labelled a liberal. Not sure I want to continue the conversation in this thread.
So I think I see what your interpretation is now. The meme is trying to point out that American liberals are more concerned about respectability and appearances rather than not doing racist things. The Democrats have no problems bombing foreign children. What they don’t like is openly admitting that the government is doing it for racist reasons. But the leftist perspective is that it doesn’t if the government is doing war crimes in a “tasteful” manner since the end result is the same to those being killed.
The point is that Trump isn’t doing anything different than Obama, Biden, or GWB did, he is just openly admitting that he is doing it for racist reasons. Liberals had no issue with bombing Yemen when Obama was doing it, or with aiding Israel do genocide on Palestine, they only took umbridge with it once the government openly stated they were doing it for racist reasons.
Alright, I see what you’re saying. Thank you for your explanation.
Your interpretation is definitely valid, but definitely not the most forward interpretation likely meant by its creator. I’m not saying you’re incorrect; It’s just the less traveled road. I think the most simple interpretation is just the difference between democrats and republicans really is just the tone of the horrors wrought upon the world. Brash vs respectful. This is probably where disconnects are being made.
Though you are correct. Maybe abstracting out the subject matter a little would’ve been a good idea.
The lib argument is literally that the child crushing is going to happen either way, so might as well choose the polite one. It’s a philosophy of utter defeatism for a working class person to have.
Instilling a sense of inevitability is part of the crushing machine
You must support the lesser evil, it’s the mature, logical thing to do!
How dare you support %Rivalcountry over America, what are you some kind of childish moron?
A real “lesser evil” would be the collapse of Amerika
HE wants to feed foreign children AND immigrants AND queer people into the meat grinder. I want to feed foreign children and immigrants into the meat grinder and promise concessions to queer people I won’t deliver on. Do you REALLY want HIM to win? /s
It’s no wonder many Americans assume everyone in the world is against them. By this logic Trump is the lesser evil for me, as a non-American, if a better America is impossible, okay then just make it stop quicker. Lesser evil.
Fair point. Is it really accelerationism if, instead of just making things worse, it actively stops the mass murder sooner?
Depends on if it changes the rate of killing. There’s probably a chart.
Ironically, in Gaza, Trump actually reduced the rate of killing.
Lebanese and Iranians probably don’t find that comforting.
Probably because they’re mostly all dead already
It almost certainly isn’t ‘most’, at least.
Recent estimates place roughly two million people in the Gaza strip. Gaza health ministry claim ~80,000 direct deaths - some studies suggest more like 100,000. Indirect deaths could be a few fold that. Roughly 100,000 have fled. Obviously, nobody is able to get any accurate population numbers today in there. That top end of that back-of-the-envelope guess would still estimate the death of 25% of Gazans, sickeningly.
Sounds like the rate of killing is staying roughly consistent regardless
So what will it be this time America: Blue lies or Red lies?
Yeah, it should be the peoples’ child crusher!
This meme also feels rude and racist
Yeah I feel the same when they put the trans flag on the bottom panel. Too much irony poisoning.
W-wha? Where? I don’t see it anywhere.
There is a common one that paints the trans flag on the liberal thing and this is kinda doing the same with racism as the subject. At best it’s a tired shitty format, at worst it has reactionary connotations. It’s not deliberate on OP just a broad genre of meme that has real sus vibes.
If it had the trans flag would you see what’s problematic with this?
That is completely veering off from the point. The way her comment was written it suggested there was a trans flag on the bottom panel, and I don’t see it at all. Like I’m just asking where it is.
Hang on let me find the one I was referencing.
here it is https://hexbear.net/comment/7397298
She explained that it’s a meme template that she’s seen before. Not too far fetched to assume racism could be replaced with transphobia here.
