yeah man pay this succesful director/actor/some other fucking guy a couple hundred thousand not to show up, meanwhile the vfx guys had to pawn their computers

  • Damarcusart [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    22·
    8 days ago

    What do you mean? It’s a vital part of all movie production for there to be someone who never actually contributes anything on set and only occasionally rolls up to say something like “No, I don’t like this emotional scene, it’s too complicated, get rid of it.” or “Make him do a rap song, the kids like the rap songs.”

  • Jabril [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
    21·
    8 days ago

    Usually executive producers are funding the movie in exchange for the credit and usually a cut off the potential profits. Most of the time they are directly funding with money but sometimes they are using social capital and name recognition as their “investment.” Executive producers are not usually paid at all except in points on the back end

    Not justifying the system just explaining how it typically works

    • Keld [he/him, any]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
      15·
      8 days ago

      There is no justifiable system where a guy can be paid out a couple of million or hundreds of thousands or tens of thousands or even honestly a single cent for not showing up to make what is essentially an animated movie while the guys doing the animation can’t afford to eat. It doesn’t matter if the payment comes before or after. I’m sure other people get screwed too, but I just saw a thing about VFX guys so that’s where my ire is right now.

      Also every time I see a behind the scenes thing they present executive producer as essentially an Ideas Guy who knows the people with money. Which is just not a fucking job.

      • Jabril [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
        21·
        8 days ago

        Right, capitalism is bad. Rich people put up their (typically inherited/unearned) capital and get to extract the profit from the workers. This is how everything works under capitalism

        • Keld [he/him, any]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
          10·
          8 days ago

          No other forms of art does this. Music doesn’t put the owner of the studios name in the songs! Well, not typically at least! The name on the painting isn’t an investor! We’re not pretending that poems are made by a patron.

          Yes someone getting paid for ownership is just capitalism. But separate things can be weird in different ways within capitalism

          • Krem [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
            12·
            8 days ago

            another example is celebrity-owned restaurants where the celebrity name is more important than the staff. this includes restaurants where the celebrity owner is a “CHEF” but doesn’t work in the restaurant (or even create the menu probably) like the Gordon Ramsey chain

          • Jabril [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
            9·
            8 days ago

            Songs have credits too, you just don’t watch them on a screen or look them up. The publishing companies, the producers. One of the most famous music producers in the world is notorious for literally doing nothing. Ceos, bosses, investors etc get the credit for shit they didn’t do always, they just shove it in your face differently

  • MoonMelon@lemmy.mlEnglish
    13·
    8 days ago

    You ever see these people visit the set or walk around the vfx studio during post production? There is a huge herd of glazers that orbits them constantly. Laughing at their jokes, protecting them from lowly workers who want to talk to them. It’s pathetic.

  • axont [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    12·
    8 days ago

    The only good thing an executive producer has ever done is that guy from the Kevin Smith story who adamantly wanted Nic Cage Superman to fight a giant spider. I don’t mean it was a good idea but it’s a very funny story that at least amuses me.