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    So many arguments in this thread with so little information. Ah, the internet.

    He probably just thought it didn’t sound the same any more, and he probably preferred the old ‘crappy’ sound. “They say she’s the same [Becky], but she’s not the same [Becky].”

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      It’s the Internet so I’d say 1) this definitely didn’t happen and 2) it was written this way specifically to bait engagement.

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      There’s an entire section of the article titled “maintenance”, he apparently does get it regularly repaired

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      The lead singer from Cake has one of the worst sounding guitar tones you’ll ever hear, but it’s perfect in the context of their songs. ‘Fixing’ it to make it sound good would ruin it. https://youtu.be/tEvcj6Nns_Y

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        Any tone in existence can be achieved with repaired and properly functioning equipment by a competent musician, avoiding repair because they don’t know how to do that is embarassing

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      The obsession I have with Trigger…

      I love that Willie, a very rich man, still plays THIS guitar and only this guitar. Like, you go to concerts and there’s a guitar tech grabbing different instruments off stage, swapping them out. But ol’ Willie just up there with bus up Trigger looking like she’s about to collapse into splinters. But she produces such a unique sound that no other guitar can match.

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    Depends how it was “fixed” If the pro tuned it to make it sound perfect that’s great. But probably anon got the damage repaired, taking away its charm and character. Of course anon doesn’t even know the difference between these two things.

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        You’re all over this thread and you’re a jackass.

        Yeah I play. Yeah I had the shittiest beat up guitar when I was in my youth. I took it all over the world because I didn’t care what happened to it. Loved it while I had it and if someone had “fixed it”, that would have destroyed what it was to me, jackass.

        And yeah now I have “better” guitars and I don’t have that 25$ guitar anymore.

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        Bassist here, I want my bass to sound fucking dirty, fuck the pro fix up. I do it myself and I have since high school. get. fucked.

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          If you’ve been doing it yourself since high school and still haven’t figured out how to do it reliably with fully repaired and properly functioning equipment then you’re a fucking moron

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            You don’t play string instruments, do you? There’s a lot that goes into any instrument’s sound, and some of it isn’t a matter of tuning. Especially when we talk about electric instruments. Maybe a pickup you installed on your bass has a small defect that introduces some noise into signal and you like the unique sound signature, for instance.

            More goes into the sound of an instrument than just tuning and the body being in good shape, so your repetition of this claim that if you can’t reproduce any given sound character on your instrument with some tuning you’re a “moron” is either reductionist for the sake of trolling or is deeply ignorant.

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    Reading the comments…is there one actual guitar player here? Does anyone know what the fuck actually goes into setting the intonation and adjusting the action of the strings?

    And people talking about permanent changes they could have made…what possible changes are getting done for 200…the proper parts alone would cost at least half of that and no one is doing work in a shop for free.

    So presumably she had it set up which means strings were changed, intonation was properly setup and the action was adjusted with a truss rod check and some feet polishing.

    If he’s pissed the intonation is correct hes just a shitty player.

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          I have a friend with guitars he uses for specific songs. This isn’t even weird for musicians, let alone artists in general.

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          If someone took my guitar and had it adjusted by someone else to meet standard industry sound specs I’d be pissed. It’s not just a guitar, it’s my hobby and something I have put a lot of time into to get the specific tone, tension, and sound that I’m looking for. Especially if they paid 200 bucks to have it done, you could pick up a beater guitar, an amp, a synth, or even a used drum kit for that much.

          It also just crosses a certain line of respect for someone’s art and personal space. It’d be like if someone was working on a painting and you snuck it away to have it finished by a commissioned artist. That’d be shitty and disrespectful.

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            It’s your hobby that you put so much time into but you can’t figure out how to readjust your guitar to get the sound you want after basic repairs? Skill issue

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            Exactly what I was thinking. It’s like grabbing your unpainted warhammer figures and having them professionally painted. Yeah, they look better, but that’s not the point.

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      I think it’s an overall change. I have a very solid latitude laptop I recovered when work upgraded our systems. It’s beat to hell, but it’s very reliable and I use the hell out of it. I’m not afraid of it getting scratched or dropped, it’s worn in and I love it. Wouldn’t trade it or get it “repaired” for anything.

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    Don’t fuck with people’s shit without asking wtf. Life isn’t like TV, not every surprise is going to be appreciated.

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    Asshole: no.

    Misguided: yes.

    His reaction isn’t unreasonable. Misplaced well intentioned actions likely will not end as intended. Ultimately, she didn’t get it. She misunderstood what he loved about the guitar.

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      His reaction seems to be to pout and not explain what his problem is. If he could communicate, OP might not have to turn to the internet to find out what they did wrong

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      The whole idea of “surprises” is complete bullshit. Social media has really over romanticised this to an extreme. When my wife gets a present, it costs quite a lot. I’m not going to take a chance of judging her taste, pick a brand I know nothing about and try to guess what she would like. We’ve got an agreement that we pick our own presents and make our plans together. No surprises bullshit. Might be boring by social media standards, but it’s the best I can do.

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        The modern western version of “gifts” is really about pushing over-consumption. If marketers cannot convince you to buy something yourself, they can try to convince someone else to buy it for you.

        I’ve always felt that gifts should be tokens. Symbols of good will, reminders of the relationship. Consumable gifts are great, especially when shared with the giver. Alcohol is great for this, but there’s plenty more you can do. Small, inexpensive art prints or figurines.

        I don’t want someone else to buy me something I woukd want to research myself. My parents gave me a “snow thrower” for Christmas a couple years ago. Its a relatively cheap, Ryobi 40v thing- I do not own anything else that uses that battery ecosystem. My step-dad loves his, and I am it is great for their 2-car driveway, but my driveway can probably fit like 10 cars in it, and I would have rather saved up for something nicer myself. Now i’m in this weird limbo where I feel socially obligated to use it for several years at least before I replace it with something I actually want.

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          My bets friend gifted me a few different bottles of mead to try. We tried them together. One bottle was drained by the end, with him drinking about as much as I did.

          And it was a great evening, spent with a friend I rarely have the chance to. The mead was good (and what’s left of it still is; pacing myself here), but the quality time was something I can’t order online.

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          I’m a school bus driver and I get tips from the kids (really, the parents) at Christmas and the end of the school year, usually in the form of gift cards. It’s still such a weird concept to me, but the thing I truly appreciate is hand-written (by the kids themselves) cards that express their appreciation and affection. It also saves me from having to go to Target (the most common gift card) and find something there that I actually want.

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          The way I do gifts with my Mom is I have a wishlist of things I’ve researched, and she picks from it.

          That way what I’m getting is still a surprise, but it’ll be something I actually want.

          The way I do gifts with my wife is she either gets me concert lawn seat tickets, or something fun to wear for me.

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          My sentiment exactly. Every Christmas I get more junk I don’t need, or stuff that I do need, but would have rather researched myself. I hate having a bunch of random knick-knacks and novelty items cluttering up my house, but I also feel guilty getting rid of gifts.

          Don’t buy me gifts, don’t bring me souvenirs, I don’t need more novelty t-shirts.

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        There are plenty of kinds of surprise that can be wonderful in the right context. Perhaps easiest is when someone tells you they want/would like something, you keep an eye out for opportunities, and surprise them when it comes around. (My wife wanted to see a comedian. I subscribed to their newsletter, and then got (refundable) tickets when they were performing near us, years later.) There can also be things that you are confident someone else will like, which they don’t know exist. (I bought a friend a battery operated pruner after seeing him struggle to keep up with bushes.) Or small things that someone likes (flowers, chocolate, breakfast in bed, depends a lot on what they are into).

        The guitar repair was the worst kind of surprise: something irreversible, which the surprisee clearly knew about, and has chosen not to do at every single opportunity - while the surpriser doesn’t know why they are choosing not to. That’s not respectful, which is the absolute minimum requirement for a surprise to work.

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          For $200 dollars it’s extremely unlikely that anything extensive or irreversible was done, definitely not by an actual professional

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        I don’t understand this insane fixation that society has with gifts being “surprises”, I find to so annoying, sometimes it even ends up being worse than not giving anything at all the gift is genuinely useless.

        One particularly bad case in experience of a surprise gift for me, was when my mom decided to surprise me with a computer as gift, specially since this is a significal finnancial burden, one of which could have been partially relifed by letting me choose and pick parts, but even though we had an agreement to let me pick the parts she just decided randomly to buy a prebuilt instead without notifying me at all, when I was extremely angry at her for this and when I questioned her horrible decision, she said: “I just wanted you to have a happy surprise” and tried to make emotionally guilty trip me when I didn’t show any thankfulness for the gift with: “Why don’t you love me? I do everyrhing for you”

        Why? do people assume that I want a surprise? why is this idea so ingrained into people’s brain that when I ask to simply give tge money one would have spent instead in buying the gift, that is seen somehow as rude, what is so rude about trying make the most out of the money would’ve been spent into a worthless sock I didn’t ask nor need?

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      asshole: yes. Maybe he enjoyed the fact he fixed it himself and didn’t want anyone else to fix it. She decided getting it to look whatever she considered good was more important than whatever he felt was good about it.

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      I kind of have a hard time imagining such a thing being done with sincerely good intentions, how many people would really do that? Easy to imagine it as a way to exercise power over someone with a plausible pretense though.

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    I for one don’t like people touching my shit. Especially shot that I’ve already put effort into myself. Ask first before you do something like that.

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    If you have to ask the internet if you are an asshole then it’s either because you are definitely an asshole, or because you are karma farming - in which case, you are an asshole.

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      the AITA on reddit is one of it’s most popular things, and lots of people farm content from it.

      because people love judging the shit out of other people and explaining how awful they are. or justifying their assholery.

      it’s arm chair quarter backing other people’s relationship drama. and everyone is an NFL relationship coach in their own mind.

      people ask the internet because social approval is very important to folks and they need to have their biases validated.

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        Plus there are podcasts that use those subs for content, so people submit their “creative” writing to see if they can get featured.

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    Yeah, you don’t fuck with shit a person is that attached to because you think it “looks rough”

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        Firstly, they’ll repair and/or make any guitar look better. It’s their job so they’ll do it. Secondly and more importantly, it isn’t about if the guitar is damaged or not. It was clearly loved for what it was, it was probably more about the history of it than anything else.
        It’s really not hard to not fuck with other peoples stuff without their consent. And it’s real sad that people like you exist that don’t seem to understand that.

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          It absolutely is about whether the guitar was damaged or not, that’s extremely relevant information and you’re trying to disregard it because that’s the only way you have any chance of not sounding like a complete fucking moron

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            I’ve got a guitar with a damaged mid pickup, I picked it up for a song, it roughs up the sound something bad, but the thing is that for what I use it to play that roughness helps give me the tone I’m looking for. I have an old Crate amp that inches closer to the end with every session, and its garbled death rattles add precisely what I want to the sound.

            Standardization is for hacks. You don’t get to decide what other people are looking for out of their art.

            And just for posterity, what do you play?

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              I haven’t played an actual instrument in decades, got a lot of musician friends though and I do still play with audio software. You can get any tone in existence with fully repaired and properly functioning equipment if you’re halfway competent, this is cope. Get good and fix your shit.

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        There’s not enough context here to say that with any certainty. If husband was playing it and enjoying it, then it’s doing the job it needs to. Even if it was actually broken and actually fixed, it still changes the relationship between player and instrument and could’ve easily taken away earned character as a way to make it look “nice”

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          I don’t have a lot of sympathy for the idea of damage as character or lack of maintenance for a musical instrument as an aesthetic decision rather than just a bad decision, but you’re right about there not being enough information

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                Because it’s more valuable as is

                I don’t even mean monetary value (though that’s also true, you don’t refinish a vintage guitar because you halve the selling price), but the historical value and sentimental value and enjoyment value. It’s a record of the time he’s put in on it and the dedication to this instrument. That means something, more than “fixing” it ever could.

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                Willie did try taking it to a repair shop one time when his regular luthier was unavailable. They refused to touch it, because they were afraid of fixing something that shouldn’t be fixed.

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    Electric guitars are little more than a piece of wood, metal strings, and a transducer. For a lot of musicians what matters most is the sentimental value of their model. What she did was basically rob the owner of that.

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    I fucking hate people who think they are ‘helping’ me or ‘fixing’ things for me.

    They tend to be condescending assholes who think they ‘know better’.

    Like no, bitch, I know what I like and I have chosen this deliberately.

    Can’t tell you how many people like give me shit about my home, my kitchen, my pantry, my bikes, my car, etc. These people tend to think nothing is worth anything unless it’s the latest, greatest, trendiest, most expensive version of a thing. Like, apparnetly if I don’t own a Tesla, live in a grey-white box, and own $10,000 bicycles or $1000 knives, I am ‘struggling’ at life or something

    I also love how people like this insist that you must perpetually be in therapy and/or have a personal trainer… or you are ‘not doing the work’. Just because you’re a lazy loser who exercise or be mentally health without paying someone to do it for you, doesn’t mean the rest of us live our lives that way.

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      Or the people who refer to everything as cheap just because it’s not “expensive”. I know people who are so fucking condescending because according to them everything else is cheap. Ok, you have an expensive ass Thermador fridge…whose ice machine hasn’t worked in 6 years. Wow, those certainly is an expensive LG dryer…that you need to leave the door open on because its drainage is shit and will get musty and grow mildew if the door is closed. Nice new Volvo, with all the LaTeSt SaFeTy FeAtUrEs while you still refuse to even look at the backup camera and still manage to hit curbs.

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        I have a newer LG washing machine in my house. It smells like the sewage line is backing up into it … which I know it isn’t because it free-drains into a utility sink.

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          Whenever they’re finished with laundry they have to leave the doors open. I don’t recall of it’s a drainage problem or just shitty design but all the moisture/water isn’t removed. It’s a known flaw and last I heard LG and other manufacturers with similar problems have done fuck-all about it

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            Ya know, it should have been obvious to me that there was a problem like this, since there’s always condensation on the lid (which is clear glass for no good fucking reason) after I’m done with a load.