Unfortunately I had to get into a struggle session this morning about whether men and masculinity are inherently cruel and misogynistic by nature.
I love this website, and I’ve seen us improve through discussion many times over the years, so I’d like to open this thread to discuss (trans)masculinity and how it fits into leftism.
As leftists, one of our core beliefs is in the ability of people and societies to improve. I think this goes hand in hand with the ability to understand and create space for positive masculinities in our communities.
Framing all masculinity as inherently oppressive and misogynistic is counterproductive for several reasons, including (but not limited to):
- Giving men an excuse to refuse to examine toxic behaviors (e.g. “I can’t help it, it’s in my nature!”)
- Making trans men and transmasculine people feel ashamed to transition and/or come out of the closet.
I’d like to share one of my favorite articles about transmasculinity. I’ve posted it on this site before, but it bears posting again: https://thenewinquiry.com/on-hating-men-and-becoming-one-anyway/
An excerpt:
Secondly, unitary theory redefined the terms of gender oppression in a way that places the ultimate blame on the bourgeoisie (a group that I, in my entry-level research job, definitely do not belong to, with none of the grey area associated with my maleness). I now understand the ways in which working-class men benefit from oppressing women as analogous to the ways in which scabs benefit from strikebreaking. The gains are undoubtedly real on an individual level but are not representative of workers’ ultimate class interest in either scenario. This allows for meaningful solidarity across gender lines.


Here’s an overview: https://hexbear.net/post/7882202
It’s worth noting that TME is NOT synonymous with “men and trans men” or “men, trans men and nonbinary transmasculine people”, as TME also encompasses cis women. This article only reads as TMA / TME discourse because it has transmisogynist elements among its internalized transphobia and repeats classic arguments of transmasculine antifeminists.
A very common one is “being a man and being trans are not sperable for me, so when you attack any men as a group, you are being transphobic.” This is literally an argument i have seen before in a city-wide smear campaign from a transmasc person against a c4t lesbian couple they were stalking or in mods on a local discord dogpiling a trans woman who had just vented about repeated sexual harassment against her (if you follow this thread, you may notice that after a couple years of centering trans people in my day to day offline life, i have an unending list of real life examples of TME trans people acting as aggressive and abusive misogynists). The same bad faith argument is also very common among antifeminist TME people on tumblr, a site notorious for targeted harassment campaigns against trans women.
And it appears in a slightly watered down form in the linked article as well. We can see there that the author is making a very classic mistake of antifeminists and in fact bigots in general, being unable to seperate their individual experience from systemic issues. Of course a trans person will see their gender in most cases as inextricably linked with their transness. I do that as well. That does not mean i cannot view womanhood and transness outside of my inner life as dictinct, seperate issues, as there are very obviously both women who are not trans and trans people who are not women. And just as there are men who are not trans, there are trans people who are not men. Therefore, we can of course see masculinity and transness as seperate issues even when they feel personally inseperable for the majority of transmasculine people.
And when we do that, we see that there is massive structural opression against trans men, some of it in ways that are among trans people indeed unique to transmasculine experiences. For example, medical gatekeeping, a bane of trans existences everywhere, intersects heavily with another denial of bodily autonony that targets people with a uterus. This intersection is a driving force behind cultural-hegemonic and then legal attacks on gender affirming care that then affects trans people of all genders, just as the transmisogynist demonization of trans women that is used for bathroom panics and against self ID laws affects all trans people, not just TMA ones, when self ID laws are repealed or prevented from passing.
But what we can also safely say is that under patriarchy, there is no systemic attack on masculinity itself. There are attacks on people perceived as women regardless of their actual gender acting in ways that are nonconforming with womanhood, there are attacks on racialized men performing masculinity in ways that are stigmatized within their group even tho white men get away with them, there is a general policing of masc gender norms that affects all people perceived as men regardless of their actual gender. But none of these are attacks on masculinity itself, because masculinity is an ideal under patriarchy, not something that has to be controlled, coerced, exploited, abused and opressed like femininity.
As always, it is of utmost importance to sort out of we are discussing an issue on an individual, organizational or systemic level. We will not arrive at a proper analysis without it. And the article linked by OP fails at this, which is one reason why it arrives at faulty conclusions.
This is correct, but if you have the misfortune of finding yourself on the trans corners of Tumblr nowadays, a lot of transfems treat TME as though it exclusively refers to transmascs.
This is frustrating to me, as a transfem, because I’ve experienced waaay more transmisogyny from cis women, than I ever have from trans mascs, but the way some nominally transfeminist communities act, you’d think trans men are the source of all of our problems, and they just aren’t.
I don’t get how all of you think this is some exclusive tumblr problem, i have scores of awful experiences that have all happened in irl communities or the local discords attached to them.
Thanks!