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You can tell a lot about a person by how they react when someone dies.
NO YOU FUCKING CAN’T
It blows my mind how much stupid shit people believe about death and how much projection people do when it comes to the literal and figurative death of loved ones and grief.
Having dealt with both intimately I will never judge anyone on how they react and deal with grief and the death of someone in their life. That is a personal journey that has no roadmap or milestones.
The fucked up thing about grief is that the moment you think you have your arms around it and have a handle on it, it all gets goes south and gets away from you.
Google broke their Advance Search and I can’t find anything past 11 months ago, but isn’t there footage out there of Kirk beating his wife or was that some other manosphere influencer?
Stephen Crowder was one of them I think, not sure if it’s the same one you’re thinking of
That’s who it was. All these types blend together.
That was the change my mind guy. He was verbally abusing his pregnant wife. She was with twins so he was verbally abusing 3 people all at once. They have since divorced.
I have always believed that video was the “shot across the bow” to get Crowder to shut the fuck up and let the divorce proceed. His wife wanted the divorce to move quickly and quietly, outside the public eye. Then Crowder got loud about it, announced it was happening on his podcast and basically said that he wasn’t going to agree to terminate the marriage.
Next thing that happened was that video getting released. One video, one argument, verbal only, but it still clearly painted him as a piece of shit. In my mind, that video was the wife’s lawyers telling Crowder’s lawyers “We have all of the home security footage. Do you really want to battle this out in public?”
Does anyone really believe that argument was the worst thing they could have released? Listen to how that man spoke to his pregnant wife and tell me you don’t think he ever got physical with her. They only ever released that one video. Crowder shut up about the divorce and that was the last of it.
You might be thinking of Dana White. I don’t remember anything like that with Kirk.
You can also tell a lot about a person by how everyone else reacts when that person dies.
“everyone?” Don’t kid yourself.
Yes, everyone.
There were exactly three reactions to Kirk dying:
- Hurray
- Who?
- What a great opportunity to exploit.
That is it. Not one person was SAD.
Some of my magat in-laws definitely cried and were sad.
Myself and others celebrated, but they got extremely upset at us doing that
You are kidding yourself. What did I just say?
This guy has never been relevant in my home country in Europe. I’m pretty sure at least 99.5% of people here had never heard from him including me. It was still on national news the entire day, and the aftermath in the following week was on the news too. So yeah. Everyone can be a pretty apt description.
Oh, right, I didn’t realise “everyone” meant “almost (but not quite) everyone in a country other than the one where the guy lived”
Jesus wept.
I was in the “who?” crowd and when I read up on it involuntarily everywhere I also saw nobody sad. All who stated how sad it was were clearly using it as a tool for forwarding an agenda or because they felt they needed to. Non-emotional sadness.
Sure, there might be people who felt truly sad because they had a constructed image of him in their heads.
Just like a crappy 90s boyband had women deeply in love with their artificial personas.
But people emotionally sad who knew the guy well? No, not that I could see in a remotely believable way.
Ah, so you didn’t find anyone that passed your standards for sounding genuine, that means no-one was genuinely sad for Kirk’s death. Come off it.
And you know, I don’t think it means that much even when few people are sad at a figure in politics (if we can say that about him) is murdered. But you know what I can guarantee? A whole bunch of people were angry that he was killed.
This whole thread is just someone who said something they thought was profound but didn’t think through. Controversial figures are loved by people on their side and loathed by people on the other side. You don’t hear as many of the people that are on the other side to you, so OP’s thinking is just an excuse to further hate on people you already hate. Sloppy thinking for people who’d rather simmer in the hate-bath of online rage.
Yes, by my standards.
We are humans. We need standards we define to measure against in all aspects of life. And I have had many, many years to refine my standards and so I trust in them.
And yes, lots of people were indeed angry. Just like I have seen people be genuinely over the top angry because of other people… Not being religious, choosing an abortion, being nice and inclusive to a specific minority, etc.
Being angry can very much be used for measuring my standards too.
If you set your own standards, then yeah… you can tell “a lot” about someone by how people react to their death, if what you want to be able to tell is a mere reinforcement of your existing beliefs.
Because you can interpret every statement of grief as genuine (if sympathetic) or manipulative (if not); every statement of anger as an expression of genuine grief (if sympathetic) or impotent rage (if not); every statement of hatred as despicable exploitation (if sympathetic) or righteous (if not).
And then you can, like the OP, post about how this is an amazing rule of thumb, that it offers amazing insight, as if it were anything other than a mirror for your preconceptions.
Here’s an honest question: have you ever applied OP’s rule of thumb after someone died and thought, “huh, guess I was wrong about them?” Or did it always confirm what you already believed?
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My grandma passed away in 2008 from a stroke and my grandpa who is still alive still hasn’t recovered from her passing. He has been able to move forward and has a girlfriend/life partner now for about 8 years but even he says the feeling he has for my grandma is forever and it will never change. With Erika you never saw or hear anything to that effect at all.
She actively celebrated his death. Like she was freed from an abusive relationship.
Wonder when Lindsey Grahams roommate will start his tour
It’s not good form to make fun of someone’s appearance but why does she look so uncanny? She just looks off in every photo I’ve seen of her and I can’t really articulate why.
Is it just the simultaneous conflicting grief grift grindset? I don’t really get it. There’s plenty of people who walk around with what looks like too much makeup to me but it kind of works for them.
At least with the dead guy it’s how his bad faith self righteousness colors ever facial expression he makes.
Horrible posture, too much makeup (especially her eye liner), she doesn’t know how to dress for her body type, and her pants go up to her rib cage.
At least those are the top things that always stand out to me about her appearance.
You nailed it. I kept looking at the photo thinking she looks like shes 80yrs old but with a lot of plastic surgery and makeup to smooth it all out. Its mostly the posture and outfit causing that.
She got the same posture as K-2SO
Nailed it.
Don’t insult droids or Alan Tudyk like that.
She has early onset Maralago face.
This comedian did too good of job mocking them
Is that a funny cool person to look up
I don’t know, tbh. She made me flinch when I opened the wikipedia page above.
Grieft
What you’re picking up on is sociopathy. Pure evil in human form.
Edit: insane to get a downvote for this 💀
Does anyone feel like posting that guy cosplaying as this lady? At the time, I didn’t realize how accurate his impression was so I didn’t save the memes. It was the funniest thing and surreal how he captured her shtick
In death, people only earn the respect they deserved in life.
Shouldn’t that be “deserve the respect they earn in life”?
Erika Lane Kirk (née Frantzve; born November 20, 1988)
She wants money: and she is pathetic and gross
It’s been like 10 months since her husband died. By all means attack her on her politics, I’ll probably agree with you.
But expecting a woman to be a shut in and grieving for a year seems a little bit regressive to me.
This was like a week after his death. Ol boy wasn’t even cold yet. She went on a whole “grief tour” throwing massive events.
Her behavior is her own.
It’s not that she’s not grieving, it’s that she’s taken every possible opportunity to profit off of his death
Yeah but that’s what he would have wanted. The grift must go on.
True, it’s just a man, those are cheap and plentiful.
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