“My job is to keep the left pro-Israel” - Chuck Schumer
Link to the video in the tweet: https://xcancel.com/Acyn/status/2061891037715657047
Yes, let us all unite to [checks notes] ensure that Republicans retain control of the Senate and therefore continue to rubber-stamp everything Trump does and further insulate him from consequences.
Break the Republican majority first. Feel free to turn on each other like starving dogs after.
You’re comparing a guy who isn’t even in the Senate yet to the single most annoying Democratic senator, when you should be comparing him against his actual opponent, Susan Collins, who thought Trump had learned his lesson.
There are no rotating villains in ba sing se
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the supreme court has also insulated trump from consequences when they gutted the voting rights act and the democrats have proved themselves to be as much a rubber stamp as the republicans since the last election; you seem to be pinning your hopes in the wrong place.
“Wanting to define the terms of the conflict” is not the same thing as “pinning hopes.”
I have no illusions that getting a Democratic majority in Congress will solve all of our problems. I know for a fact that a Republican majority will continue to make things worse at an ever-increasing pace until the situation becomes completely untenable. At least with Democrats, there’s a conversation to be had.
At least with Democrats, there’s a conversation to be had.
is there?
the democrats refused to talk about gaza during the election and their post-mortem study won’t even mention it; yet multiple polls confirm that that was the biggest reason why they lost the last election.
Kavernacle and Bad Empanada seem to be fully on the internet clout train.
Allergic to the idea that leftism, or even antizionism, can win.
ZombiFrancis seems to be fully on the internet clout train.
Allergic to the idea that leftism, or even antizionism, can win
Impenetrable. Perfection.
That’s cool that you use internet content creators as your lens to view the world, rather than evaluating their claims historically. You must have such interesting studies, so many insights to share.
USA senators threatening to beat a woman over minor policy differences, ha
Pretty fitting that the US democrats main focus candidate right now is a former Abu Ghraib torture camp prison guard, who repeatedly says he signed up for the US military because he wanted to kill people.
It really kind of is. The bar is so low.
But without disputing who he is: his net worth is around the same (Stated as under $165k) as the median American ($125k). He’s categorically not a part of the wealth class, and he at least seems to know it.
That kind of class consciousness on the American national stage from a white man veteran? I think that’s relatable to a giant swath of otherwise apolitical or even chuddy Americans.
If he can stick to his principles on policy in Congress and even just be the new Bernie, he’s going to resonate strongly with the post-9/11 military community. If that faction can even so much as look at the left outside their crosshairs, it’ll be a significant shift.
He’s worth the shot in Maine, I think.
class consciousness
For US liberals, the best “class conciousness” they can come up with is strasserism - Supporting people like Platner who love killing middle easterners, and align with US supremacy and nationalism, and promise to keep the imperialist superprofits flowing to the imperial core.
That kind of class consciousness on the American national stage from a white man veteran? I think that’s relatable to a giant swath of otherwise apolitical or even chuddy Americans.
very true imo, but his wealth classifies him petite bourgeoisie and this class has a well documented history of siding with fascism over socialism when it comes down where it matters.
I can see that interpretation, since he IS a small business owner of an oyster farm.
Having been a shellfish farmer myself, but on the west coast, my perspective is that it’s closer to tenant farming than being petit bourgeoisie. The self employed and small growers all had to rent tideflats to work.
But yes, ultimately it is the same function since some other owners as I remember absolutely were just seeking to separate themselves from labor.
you’re right about him being relatable to chuds.
i think platner’s is the modern representation of an american liberal; now more aware than the liberals were before.
and i’m convinced that it’s entirely because of tiktok – if it weren’t for tiktok, gaza would be just as invisible as it was w the liberals from before.
I heard him speak the other day. I don’t think I’ve seen a more blatant CIA cutout
I have this pet theory that some billionaires made a bet on how many “values” they could have a “leftist” dem voter betray in with one vote. Dude’s got everything from nazi tattoo to Iraqi war crimes to zionism and infidelity (free space for any US politican tbf).
There was this comment chain under a comment moaning about “purity testing” on the left where I said
The people on lemmy complaining about purity tests are typically the ones to rally to the defense of a US marine and Blackwater merc with 4 tours in Iraq, 1 in Afghanistan and a tattoo of the SS skull because he is running as a democrat.
and the guy didn’t know about Platner and thought I was just making something up and dismissed me as “just another .ml tankie”. When I linked them they immediately went with
Okay, so upon reading through the full story and also the comments. It really just seems like he has a skull and bones tattoo that vaguely resembles one used by a nazi division, that doesn’t appear to be very mainstream, even among neo Nazis. And since there’s not any other evidence pointing to him being a Nazi I think the most likely explanation is he got a tattoo he thought looked cool, like he said.
shame the post got deleted so I can’t link the chain it was pretty funny
Okay, so upon reading through the full story and also the comments. It really just seems like he has a skull and bones tattoo that vaguely resembles one used by a nazi division, that doesn’t appear to be very mainstream, even among neo Nazis. And since there’s not any other evidence pointing to him being a Nazi I think the most likely explanation is he got a tattoo he thought looked cool, like he said.
Like, OK, I’ll give him that then, but why…hasn’t he removed it after learning about it?
Do their brains just stop working after they arrive at this logic?
vaguely resembles one used by a nazi division, that doesn’t appear to be very mainstream, even among neo Nazis
The SS Totenkopf was used the insignia of the SS deaths head units, the units that staffed the concentration camps. Every concentration guard had that exact totenkopf on their uniform in multiple places. Heinrich Himmler’s own fucking cap didn’t have SS bolts but the Totenkopf. It’s such a prominent SS symbol there was a tv sketch about this exact skull called “are we the baddies” that is now a pretty well-known meme.
“P-hustle” was also frequenting military history subs and even commented under a photo featuring the Totenkopf (albeit not prominently but in a comment chain pointing it out) https://undelete.pullpush.io/r/CombatFootage/comments/auy0bi/_/ehbh3n6/?context=4
I do not believe he didn’t know. This guy also came to the defense of people getting the SS bolts tattood. He got a covering tattoo when it became a political liability and not a second sooner.
It’s honestly really bizarre, or just classic democrat shit.
It really just seems like he has a skull and bones tattoo that vaguely resembles one used by a nazi division
hahaha the COPE
these people are starting to call thselves “the left”. “the left” is anti zionist and will always be.
no really, don’t allow this shit.
They’ve been inapropriately calling themselves “The Left” for decades.
The left of maybe Heinrich Himmler, but seeing as they support guy who have tattooed the same symbol that Heinrich Himmler went genocidally infamous under, i doubt even that.
Left also should not accept current or previous military members unless they are openly anti US military and imperialism pretty much every single sentence they speak publicly.
Not at all, whatsoever with absolutely no exceptions other than listed. Those guys and gals get up to some bad shit, and they’re usually one (or less) person removed from (fascist) government officials
for sure. the indoctrination goes hard in the military, police forces and similar institutions.
people i know who went through these never go back to having sound critical thought and they stay a bit aggressive forever.
I just got banned from lemmy.world/c/progressivepolitics for criticizing Platner.
Anything to the left of a Nazi is “ultra-left” apparently.
These people are so desperate for any excuse to vote (D) it’s pathetic
Yep get downvoted anytime I question this guy. Same with the billionaire running for governor in California.
Sanders endorsed him too though if I’m not mistaken. So everyone just needs to take a deep breath and remember that Susan Collins needs to fucking goooooo
Edit. Fucking ML, how to I keep ending up with these dipshits? Time to figure out how to block it all.
Sanders fucking voted to bomb yugoslavia, Sanders refused to call it genocide for two years and the one time he did he opened with “Hamas (a terrorist organization, very scary!) started it”. Getting endorsed by Bernie “bent the knee for hillary” Sanders is an indictment of Plaᛏner if anything.
Sanders endorsed Jon Fetterman in 2022 too.
This entire debate is “Kamala Harris is not Donald Trump” 2026 edition. “The left” needs to find an alternative to promote instead of a literal Nazi mass murderer.
Against Dr Fucking Oz.
Point still stands but probably not here.
You cannot debate with people here because they do not want to accept that reality. They do not care that Dr. Oz would be much, much worse than Fetterman. They’ll just pretend that they are the same for a specific situation, and then eventually tell you that they hope everyone in America is killed or something when you get down to it for perpetuating the settler colonial state, regardless of what they may have done to stop it because there isn’t enough anyone can do beside wanton destruction and violence (that they would never do but gleefully tell others to do). This is some sort of cult and/or honeypot and it’s best to never venture here.
Partly due to the Overton window, partly due to their inability to confront their own complicity, I think. They don’t want to be responsible for anything - they just want to vote blue and pat themselves on the back.
so is platner going to walk back what he’s said about israel like mamdani did or does he understand you can just lie?
Besides being a mass murderer of brown people Platner was also cheating on his wife. Truly a reliable guy who will keep his word.
Libs will be like “wow you really want Susan Collins to win don’t you” (I have no idea who Susan Collins is)
i could not care less about infidelity in the context of american politics.
I care about him being a fascist US military cuck, loves it, brags about killing brown people for fun and adventure, and having a Nazi tattoo for like 20 years. I think he’s a bad guy with a faux leftist coat of paint.
yup. sexting on top of all that is nothing. it’s even adult women not the pedo cabal and i’m supposed to care that the blackwater guy stepped out on his wife? the clinton blowjob scandal is old enough to rent a car
Infidelity says something about trustworthiness. And liars.
It mostly says something about the material conditions of a person that is within a society that forces monogamy which severely punishes those that aren’t.
I just don’t think it really adds to the argument. If someone walked like a Nazi, shot like a Nazi, wore Nazi tattoos, then claims to be a leftist while not working with any left orgs or using their current platform to create class consciousness, they’re already failing to take the most basic steps. Why add anything more? It’s adding a weak argument to a strong one, making it easier to dismiss.
Schumer definitely didn’t give his support willingly. And nobody care what he has to say anyway.
The comments here are ridiculous, he is only giving support because Platner is winning without him and it’s a bad look if democrats don’t support a dem candidate.
Well this is Lemmy.ml, you couldn’t have had high expectations from the start.
Oh dear, those centrists need to get their heads out of their asses.
There’s no Cuomo or Adams left to stay in the race. It is just Platner and Collins now. So unless you’re down with more Collins, it’s Platner for Mainers.
Dang right, I support him even if he’s another fetterman or santos… status quo must go…
Cool thing is, based on all the weird comments on Lemmy, as if that is any good way to make a decision haha, I don’t think he is
Schumer definitely didn’t give his support willingly.
I’m sure Schumer got something in exchange which he does care about then.
