To be real, I really would like to snag a bottle for myself. Preferably a bottle of Khvanchkara.
News article from Reuters, direct link to website
TBILISI, May 29 (Reuters) - Tangled cobwebs dangle from the ceiling in dim light and a pleasant, musky sweetness pervades the air in this repository of a precious wine collection, once owned by Georgia’s most infamous son, Josef Stalin.
The Georgian government, which owns the roughly 40,000 French and Georgian rarities, unsealed the wine vault for the first time this week in the capital Tbilisi.
It plans to auction off the collection, some of which dates from the early 19th century, and use the funds to open a wine education school in Georgia.
Irakli Gilauri, the owner of Gilauri Wines who worked with Georgia’s agriculture ministry on the project, said the auction would help to “put Georgia on the collectors’ map”.
The South Caucasus country sells itself as the birthplace of wine, with archaeological evidence demonstrating a continuous wine-making tradition stretching back 8,000 years.
Stalin, who was born in Georgia and led the Soviet Union from 1924 until his death in 1953, was an enthusiastic wine drinker and collector.
His trove includes wine from Bordeaux’s most famous estates that were once owned by Russia’s Tsar Alexander III and his son Nicholas II. The Soviets seized the Imperial Romanov collection after the 1917 Russian Revolution, and Stalin became its guardian, slowly adding his favourite Georgian varieties.
Peering into the dust-covered bottles at the amber liquid inside, collector Victor Chen, who travelled to Tbilisi from Dallas, Texas, was excited by what he saw.
“I feel like you’re Indiana Jones opening up a cave: it could be nothing, it could be something,” he said, referring to the fictional swashbuckling archaeologist from the film franchise.
“There’s not many things that are still historical moments at this point. And this could be one of them.”
They’re misattributing this collection as Stalin personally owning it aren’t they?
If he personally owned it surely it would have stayed in his family through his descendants and yet it did not, therefore it can’t have been Stalin’s personally.
EDIT: Ok this is actually the collection that the soviets seized from the Tsars, which had some more added to it under Stalin, but was not Stalin’s personal property. This is in fact more appropriate to call the collection of the Tsars.
Here I am patiently waiting for them to auction off his comically large spoon collection.
I’m sorry to say he ate those too. Y’see, the problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of spoons to eat the spoons with.
Y’all wanna go in on this together? I can contribute $20.
Is the wine some fetishization, or a means of exchange, or a store of wealth, or is it for drinking?
you got it
nobody should have more wine bottles than there are days in a lifetime. pretty cringe he had such a huge collection tbh
The Soviets seized the Imperial Romanov collection after the 1917 Russian Revolution, and Stalin became its guardian, slowly adding his favourite Georgian varieties.
It wasn’t all his, he just took ownership of it
Sounds more like the new state (USSR) seized what was either property of the old state, or personal property of the Romanovs (the line may be fuzzy, I’m not a Russian lawyer). Then Stalin became its “guardian,” which sounds more like he was keeping the collection from being looted/sold off than personally owning it and treating it as his individual property. Him adding to it, it still being around today, and it being owned by the Georgian government all tracks with this.
Seems like a pet project more than anything. I could see an argument that he should have done something else with it, but it’s pretty small in the scheme of things, and I can also see keeping this around for diplomatic events or cultural reasons.
Being wine guys
Yeah, this is the equivalent of a state art collection. Especially since wine is a huge thing in that part of Eastern Europe (hence him adding a ton of local varieties).
Having a collection like that is a political tool, and a way to archive the labor of regional wineries.
Nope, clearly it’s because he’s a monster and is hoarding his trillionaire wine collection from the proles in his feudal socialist fascist society!!! :smuglord:
It would be one thing if there were stories of Stalin being a massive lush, who burned through this rare and expensive wine as if it meant nothing. That doesn’t seem to be the case, though.
I think I remember his drinking really accelerated after the war. You can’t smoke and drink like that and not have it battering at your heart like a horde of barbarians
But I don’t remember anything about him being a big drinker before that, and even some conflicting old rumors about him abstaining at parties while getting everyone else drunk
What ive read is that he was always a drinker and eater, but it got worse in the late 20s and even worse after the war
Yep
I’m of the opinion personally that theres nothing wrong with the people who fight and win the revolution from enjoying the luxuries they seize a bit. I mean what are you going to do with 40,000 wine bottles? Stand on the street and be like, “Hey, anybody want some wine? Get your wine here! I promise I’m not trying to poison you! I just have a bunch of random wines I’m giving away!”
It would be like if American had a revolution. Most of these huge mcmansions aren’t going to work as public housing. So you can let them sit empty, demolish perfectly functional housing, or let revolutionary war heros live in them. I forget the term but theres this term for like communists that obsess over being poor. Like everyone has to live in barracks. It’s the thing that China rejected outright. There is nothing inherently wrong with abundance or luxury. The thing wrong with it is that in capitalism is is gained by exploiting others and is at the expense of their basic needs. But if the luxury already exists theres no reason people can’t enjoy it. And if you have the spare resources to both have luxurious things and to raise 800 million people out of poverty like China did then your allowed to have some nice things too.
Fun fact, if you read John Reed’s Ten Days that shook the world, there’s a section in there detailing the Soviets capturing the winter palace and having to put disciplined and either sober or teetotaler red guards outside the Tsarist wine cellar doors to stop the revolutionaries from looting it and getting shitfaced.
There’s a good chance these bottles were there.
“it wasn’t his he just owned it” ok lol. why didn’t he give them away to the people?
It was the USSR’s wine collection, technically speaking, Stalin was just it’s curator. The fact that they are auctioning it off is not a great sign for their economy.
These are not wines to drink. I’d imagine 100 year old wines will sour and be turned to vinagar. That said…I would love to have a piece of history. Stalin’s Wine Cave is not something I thought of for my BINGO ticket this year.
I’d drink it like boomers chug apple cider vinegar. That wine has certified Stalinium fortifying it to ward off the Ultimate liberalism
Even though I quit drinking it would be cool to own one of Stalin’s wines.
Amber.
Ok, there’s vinegar, but won’t someone think of the PISS?
