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      That’s a lot of talk about misinformation for a document full of marginal comments reading “THIS CLAIM IS CONTRADICTED BY PUBLIC DATA”

      I was prepared to be very angry about the lack of Gaza mentions but this document barely mentions anything policy-related, it seems. It’s the typical boilerplate about needing to connect more with Middle America and the Heartland and, presumably, the common clay of the New West.

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        Because the douche in charge of the dnc gave the task to his friend, who very clearly phoned it in and didn’t even finish the report , there’s literally no conclusion. Parts also seem to have been produced by ai.

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      Also no mention of socialism, and the only mention of climate change is to claim that “Climate change and green energy transition messaging created anxiety among workers in traditional industries worried about job losses.” That in a section that was marked up for lacking sourcing/evidence.

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    Am I reading this right that the purported reason for reneging on the promise to release it after completion is that the staffer assigned to write it totally half-assed it and refused to give sources for data and some of the data was verifiably wrong?

    The DNC edited their own comments/corrections into the report. Great stuff here:

    edit: oh my god I love this

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    A fake release of an early draft that refuses to say anything? Is this the Democrats’ version of oil price manipulation, but lazier?

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      Why, yes.

      p. 32: “Male voters require direct engagement. The gender gap can be narrowed. Deploy male messengers, address economic concerns, and don’t assume identity politics will hold male voters of color.”

      p. 8: “Winning Anywhere means providing for a renewed focus on the voters of Middle America and the South, who have come to believe they are not included in the Democratic vision of a stronger and more dynamic America for everyone. Millions of Americans are suffering from poor access to healthcare, manufacturing and job losses, and a failing infrastructure, yet continue to be persuaded to vote against their best interests because they do not see themselves reflected in the America of the Democratic Party.”

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        I suppose they’re correct in that analysis if you narrow in “voter” to mean “person who was split between which party to vote for, but. they’re definitely going to vote no matter what and also they do not care about foreign policy or most domestic policy” which I suppose at this point is more or less whatever remains of their electorate

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          They mention that they targeted three kinds of voters, but two of them were pretty much the same kind.

          From the outset, the campaign set three targeting priorities. There were “re-engagement targets” – voters who had supported Obama or Biden, but were infrequent voters who needed persuasion to vote and to vote for Biden and then Harris – mostly younger voters or voters of color. There were “traditional swing voters,” these are voters who have largely moved towards Democrats in the Trump era, mostly college educated suburban voters who were not field targets, but were tracked for support.

          The third and smallest target group was “peel-away Trump voters,” who had perhaps voted for Trump in 2016 or 2020, but may have been with Democrats on abortion or who were alienated with the chaos and corruption of the Trump era.

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            Weird how they ignored the 50%+ of the population that fit into the segment of “not voter” and instead decided to focus on

            1. People who used to vote
            2. Swing voters
            3. Also swing voters

            And also a large part of group 1 probably fit into the segment of people being anti-genocide

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        This is a great exercise for therapy if anyone wants to help me out.

        In that section about not assuming that identity politics will hold voters of color, the negation makes me really angry really quickly. “Oh, so you were assuming that black people like it when you say black people? End of story?”

        But if I’m going to not be emotionally volatile, what’s the alternative? Maybe I think about how little the author gave a shit about writing. They’re not actively thinking that POC are so gullible, they’re just not even putting any effort into the theory of mind for the essay. It’s clear when they don’t even make a conclusion or verify anything they’re saying. So in that sense, maybe the interpretation that this is an admission of a vile mind is not the only one possible, maybe it’s an artifact of a mind that did not find this work to be important. This person isn’t representing the whole DNC either, this was just some suit filing in a mad lib. If they’re not showing what they think then there’s no need to read deeply into what they say.

        Does it absolve the DNC of their transgressions? No! But it’s a forgiveness of expecting them to give a shit about what they say. Caring about words, their meaning, and other people is a gift that makes me unique and kind.

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          Twice they say that “Demographics are not destiny” but the best they can do to elaborate is “Context and execution matter.” A suit filling in a mad lib is spot on.

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    so “it’s dogshit that’s why we’re not releasing it” was true after all. this was streisand’ed to the high heavens. even if this was properly done no way any document coming out of the DNC would’ve admitted that support for the israeli genocide was the cause.

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      Glass Joe but instead of telegraphing all his weak-ass punches he’s poorly hiding the giant box labeled pro-genocide campaign ideas

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    Here’s my analysis - the race swung because of Trump’s McDonald’s photo-op. mccrucified

    By September 2024, everyone had forgot about Butler shooting and Kamalamentum was in full swing. But Trump did the fryer at McDonalds photo-op, while accusing Kamala of lying about working in McDonalds. The timeline didn’t work, Kamala claimed she worked at McDonalds while she’s in law school at Stanford, how many law school students at Stanford whose dad is a Stanford professor worked at McDonalds, really. The Kamala campaign couldn’t provide a single proof that she worked at McDonald’s. The photo of Trump working the fryer was everywhere. Even though Trump lied a lot, everyone know some bourgie kid who lied about working minimum wage before. Kamala’s lie was more relatable to regular Americans and completely halted her momentum.

    In conclusion, Libya is a land of contrast.

    There, I made a better autopsy than whatever this is. That’ll be $50,000 consulting fee.

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      Yeah but have you considered this, from Ken Martin’s biggest Stan?

      https://lemmy.world/comment/23861489

      givesomefucks

      What?

      Did you literally just download the PDF and search for those three things, see 0, and then close it?

      Because even just skimming thru any of the 193 pages would show you none of it’s is about specific policy positions, largely because with 4 years to the next presidential election, that would be entirely useless…

      Like, we do not want the DNC picking policy, that’s what the candidate we vote for in primaries do.

      A large organization like the DNC dictating policy for politicians to follow and using their influence as a party to get those people elected is what got us here in the fuckign first place

      The paper is going to seem boring and it’s not going to have what you think, be cause it wasn’t written for us, and it wasn’t written up to be a list of reasons why Kamala lost, be ause everyone reading it would be very aware of why that happened.

      The point of the paper was what a nonbiased organization could do to fix shit.

      So (again, fucking obviously) it’s not going to list policy positions to push.

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        It’s not supposed to discuss policy, it’s supposed to discuss the reasons she lost. Well, really, everyone knows those already, it’s supposed to discuss things to improve in future campaigns. Except you can’t have such a large organization telling individual candidates what to do. Look it’s not for you, ok, you wouldn’t understand.

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    Seems unfinished and lacking specifics. Gotta love the annotations.

    “Trump fucking plastered us”

    ^^^^ SOURCE??!?!?

    Just fantastic analysis here. Love the Redditisms and corporate nonsense language. There’s some genuine nuggets of truth about how the party needs to actually represent the people and not just the rich that I’m sure they’ll pretend they didn’t see. This is the most milquetoast analysis of their failures and you can still feel their seething petulance to every page.

    Edit: God damn this is just terrible. Why wouldn’t you finish this before releasing it? Ken Martin and the DNC thinks the pressure will be off now? They look like total fucking idiots.