• TrustedFeline [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      Imperial collapse and the warlord era happened like halfway into the century of humiliation. I think we’re gonna get those in the first decade.

      Maybe we’ll learn from the chinese and it will only be a half century of humiliation.

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        Imperial collapse and the warlord era happened like halfway into the century of humiliation. I think we’re gonna get those in the first decade.

        Behold, the unparalleled efficiency of capitalism

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        No that just implies the century of humiliation already started. The neoliberal era is the start of the humiliation. So from the 1973 oil crisis.

        Think about it.

        Large cabal of other nations producing an important commodity band together to monopolise said commodity?

        The only politically viable (by your mode of production) option is to start running massive trade deficits and destroy the domestic economy?

        This gives rise to political dynasties of the most splendid fools raised under jaw dropping privilege?

        A second opium war oil war/crisis?

        A nation where central power is relatively weak while local power is stronger (constant back and forth between feds and states) that has trouble organising at the national level?

        Only thing different this is that the US is in a much stronger position than Qing China was (no shit ig) and suffered way less

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          With the century of humiliation, it wasn’t just the common people who were humiliated, it was everyone. It was a total national failure. But neoliberalism has been the dominant economic force in the world for decades. China was never like that between the opium wars and 1949

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            Well, to be fair. Most of the global south also got colonised during that time, so “humiliation” was the dominant global state of affairs at the time.

            Still, this is mostly just a humorous observation. I wouldn’t say that the Chinese century of humiliation lines up with the decline of the American empire. Just that there are some similarities (which is the basis of scientific investigation)