As per the title, western press is starting to doom post about mass shortages of food and fuel in the coming months if the Epstein Coalition doesn’t back down against Iran.
What if anything should we start stockpiling in anticipation of future shortages?
you see, with rising fuel prices we’d rather let food rot than give it to the proles.
no but on a serious note: even during a global pandemic with unimaginable consequences at the time we only had shortages due to hoarders. i highly doubt that the closing of a trading route will affect food production as much as a global pandemic.
there are 2 outcomes: you look stupid if you stockpile or you look stupid if you didn’t stockpile.
just act on whatever you think is more likely.
Counterpoint 2% of the global energy supply is used to make fertilizer. The majority which is produced and exported off the Gulf out through the Strait of Hormuz. It’s never been so over.
Russia is still a major petroleum-based fertilizer producer, so China and India’s fertilizer supply is safe at least (India also makes a lot of their own.) Canada is a major provider to the west but I can imagine as the cost of shipping goes up that’s going to leave Europe shit out of luck- too expensive to ship from Canada, Russia sanctioned, and the gulf locked down. US also produces a lot of their own but I’ve seen that US farmers already felt they had a fertilizer shortage because of the tarriff war driving up prices on it in the first place.
It’s because fertilizers isn’t just one thing. Going by the OEC website, I think we’ll be ‘fine’ when it comes to potassium fertilizers (it’s Canada’s and Russia’s game), but nitrogenous fertilizers and urea rely on the gulf. Either because its produced in the gulf, or because countries in Europe and East Asia produce those fertilizers with the gulf’s inputs. Morocco meanwhile is very dominant when it comes to phosphorous so we should be ‘fine’ there as well.
this is a completely valid concern and it WILL affect poorer people which is fucked up.
i just assume OP is from a western imperialist country
I am, yes.
I appreciate I’m in a much better position than most of the world, and less likely to suffer, but this crisis feels unprecedented in scope.
It’s going to be bad for areas where there’s already chronic deficits but not in the US, where there’s massive overproduction. There will be negative consequences - food prices will go up, especially for meat/animal products, smaller farmers will go bankrupt and the consolidation of the ag sector will accelerate, and a lot of imported fruits and veggies will be more expensive or less available, but it won’t be a torches-and-pitchforks situation.
I think American wallets are already sensitive to grocery store prices. I absolutely think in the summer, this place will burn. They might put it over the top after the SAVE act passes or they still the elections
I mean, I’d rather look stupid with a stockpile than the other way around. Better to be looking at it than looking for it. also https://hexbear.net/comment/6951751
Now that the entity has attacked Iran, my dear friends - for the well being of my people - I have a request for all of you.
But first some Context:
Request: Please make sure you have the essentials to be able to take care of yourself:
If you live in the imperial core, and if it does not put you in danger to do so: As you make your purchases, be loud about how you are panic buying because this Iran war is going to hit harder than both Covid and the Ukraine war.
If you can purchase these items with a partner or friend - you can be loud by talking to your friend about this issue and let others overhear you.
If you have successfully organized a community of people, please activate your groups to engage in this operation. Pretending to be independent couples and engaging at one popular supermarket (I.e. Trader Joe’s, Costco) simultaneously will much more likely trigger the panic wave that is required. Or to stretch your numbers further - have one couple talking, and everyone else buying a lot of items independently in a line - make it visible that large numbers of seemingly unassociated people are engaging in this panic.
If you have not successfully organized a community of people and are intending on attending an anti-war protest. Inform your fellow protestors of the seriousness of the economic consequences of this war. They are already primed to listen, so make the rounds and tell them to buy nonperishables like rice and beans as a matter of their own wellbeing.
Please do not instigate panic buying if you do not live in an imperial-core nation.
Outside of a successful operation, it will take months for prices to rise and consequences to settle in. You can turn every grocery run into praxis by engaging in repeats of this operation.
Because something like bags of rice is:
Assuming you are not broke and/or in financial trouble, buy a shit ton and make a show of it. Please prioritize your own plans and well-being first.
This is our protest to the war.
i am not AmeriKKKan, my reality and that of my peers is completely different as my country is not at war and i cannot comment on whether what you proposed is the correct way of approaching this or not.
Nee ich weiss lol, aber der Ruf ging an alle in “the imperial core”.
Me and my wife were able to save a little bit of money in the past couple months and we used it to create like a little stockpile. It’s like two days worth of groceries but gives us the chance to talk about the Iran war with people, because a lot of people still think it won’t affect us but we are part of the US economy, the US is where we got our oil products from.
Let’s start a panic!