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It’s incredible to me that 4chan can pull the most racist, sexist, and homophobic dregs of our society AND the sweetest, nicest, softest uwu trans folks. Why would the latter want to hang out in a place where the former wants them dead??
let’s be honest, a lot of those softest nicest uwu trans folk on 4chan are also massively racist and transphobic, and it goes beyond self hatred too
they despise and mock anyone who’s not passing, gender conforming, straight, and white
Its a type of self harm in my opinion. So the same reasons for other types would apply.
it kinda feels nice to be called a slur tbh. Live in fear of it IRL but to see people just losing their shit and them not being able to do anything about other than scream it is really nice.
Granted, im talking about toxic vrchat lobbies and not 4chan but I imagine it kinda carries over.
edit: perfect example here, it’s SO FUCKING FUNNY to see the rage in this guy’s head over absolutely nothing
though i doubt this is serious but there are people who actually act like this. I got called a foid yesterday which means I pass enough even the incels can’t tell the difference 😘
Yeah the contrapoints video where she talks about when she used to be in places like that makes that pretty clear to me. Most trans spaces online have rules about aggressive self hating and especially against encouraging/reinforcing reasons of others in their self hating. 4chan does not, it is a place to wallow in “cleansing” self hatred.
I also think that it’s about getting attention, adjacent to what you’re saying, even it’s shitty. They’re definitely not invisible in that space.
Because of freedom. To speak the authentic doubts without censorship or reprecussion.
not sure, tbh - but I think they keep to separate corners and the freedom to post problematic stuff is probably a major motivation - a /tttt/ or 4tran kind of community isn’t welcome in most online trans spaces (whether Lemmy or Reddit) because the mainstream trans culture (at least online) is hostile to the enbyphobia, the toxicity & criticism of trans subcultures, the excessive and unchecked brainworms, the DIY surgeries, etc. that go are common in these communities.
DIY surgery? The only one I can think of being feasible on your own would be an orchi. What are they doin over there?
yes, there was actually a recent case of someone posting about their DIY orchi in a 4tran community on Reddit - I think they were in Europe.
But regardless, the 4tran community seems to talk about and “support” DIY surgery to an extent other trans communities tend to either not or actively suppress, at least from my experiences in online trans communities. It’s not like the community is delusional about the risks, but there is a respect for people who go through with it, and a tendency within the community to share resources on how to go about DIY surgeries like that.
I’ve also seen trans men express frustration with their situation and inability to go through with a DIY orchi the way trans women would be able to, etc. - again, interactions I’m not seeing as much elsewhere.
In general, 4chan is more “id” and these sorts of topics that would be taboo elsewhere are free to find expression.
I mean tbf, respect from me too to those that do DIY surgery. it still seems crazy risky though.
Maybe they haven’t heard of Lemmy yet.
They did and they weren’t allowed on here 💔
iirc there is actually a 4tran lemmy instance, but it’s not federated with anyone
probably for the better tbh
/tttt/ is incredibly self destructive. Like, I’m sympathetic to the core emotion that a lot of freshly out trans people are cringe about it, but their cringe is the price of self discovery, of experimentation, and authenticity in a difficult and awkward stage of relearning who you are and who you can be. /tttt/ is a hub of people so fearing being cringe that they forget to live and to learn to be authentic (something I too once struggled with). And in a great irony it too is cringe, while the cringe of unabashed self expression and experimentation contains the seeds of coolness.
In short, I’m glad they’re touching grass.
yeah, I don’t know who thinks /tttt/ isn’t cringe, lol
I tend to think of it more as a kind of black-pill space where people congregate to bond over their shared misery, social alienation, gender dysphoria, etc.
I think their hatred of others is symptomatic of their self-loathing more than anything.
Tech won’t save us, but we sure could make a great start by, say, submerging 20 carefully chosen server racks in pickle juice.
Love the pink hair
She’s cute AND a Lain enjoyer. What a W
