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    > americans think they have power
    > americans start a war
    > americans lose the war against a bunch of dudes in sandy flip flops

    Let’s see history repeat itself. Again.

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    Before the invasion of Ukraine, Russia was feared as a great military might of the world.

    Now the curtain has been drawn back on the wizard, and it turns out they can’t even properly subjugate their neighbors.

    Makes me wonder how much of the military bravado from China and America is just a fancy veneer and how deep the corruption has managed to hollow out their ability to fight a real slugfest of a war, not these one-sided invasions and subsequent 20 year occupation.

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    Don’t just say “White House Official.” It was Stephen Miller. You know, the most racist and probably most dangerous person that is under Trump.

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      Stephen Miller

      Also the person who doesn’t have Secret Service protection like Trump does, which I mention for no reason in particular.

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        Well, after protesters wrote mean notes in chalk on the sidewalk in front of his house earlier in ‘25, he did freak out and move his entire family into a military base. So, there’s that to contend with.

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          Queer teens regularly get yelled at by bigot mobs and brush it off; Stephen Miller sees two insults and a statistic written in front of his house, and immediately jumps ship. So much for the “Tough Guy” shtick.

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          Him moving to a military base actually made me a lot more worried about their future plans than most of the rest of their policies have.

          It looks a lot like something someone who wants to start a civil war would do.

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        Trump said the second amendment people would take care of things. Member that?

        Of course stochastic terrorists, mafias, and corrupt or unethical armed services members aren’t really on my holiday card list either.

        I think the best we might get is Elmo Musk driving over his toes after a spat over Ms Miller’s lovechild. Which, and let us be clear - we would accept.

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    This all stops if enough of us say no. Sell your stocks. Let’s reset the power they think they have.

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    Senator Bernie Sanders, independent of Vermont, denounced Mr. Miller’s remarks soon afterward, saying on CNN that “Mr. Miller gave a very good definition of imperialism.”

    that’ll get him

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      What would you do?

      If you were Bernie? Go in and blow millers brain out? Thats one way to rally support for the republicans.

      Or something else? Easy to sit here and make useless comments online.

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    You’d think they’d know how surprising nations can unite when risks are in the air. Notable examples:

    • Nazi Germany allied with Soviet Union 1939-1941
    • Allied forces allied with Soviet Union 1941-1945

    If USA annexes Greenland, EU allying with China stops being an absurd idea.

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        Not only were they allied, historical notes suggest that Stalin was obviously deeply hurt by the eventual backstab from Hitler. He thought they were best buds.

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            In World War 2 before 22 June 1941, when Nazi Germany launched Operation Barbarossa.

            Perhaps most notably in the annexation of Poland, and in a more distant way in Finland, Latvia, Estonia, Bessarabia, Lithuania.

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          He thought they were two genocidal peas in a pod. Who would have thought that you can’t trust an unhinged maniac? Put two of them together, and no wonder it didn’t work out well.

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            i’m well aware.

            Clearly, not.

            where’s the alliance in it?

            Their shared objective in 1939 was to carve up and annex Europe between them. That one party to the alliance unilaterally terminated the alliance does not mean that the alliance never existed.

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    And how do you have that power? Because the rest of the world gives you money.

    How about we stop?

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    Hey, Americans, this is what happens when you stay silent.

    Go burn down the city hall or something. Stop posting. Start doing.

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      But at least they saved Palestine. They did save Palestine, didn’t they…?

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          And her unrealized gains tax over a Million would have destroyed the US Economy! We did save the economy, right? /s

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          Just because Trump is crazy that doesn’t make genocide support by not Trump okay suddenly. Get over it

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              There’s no hope for Americans

              But neither is there for Europeans. We knew that the chemical weapons in Iraq were fake and we knew that there was no UN mandate for Syria and the one for Libya was stretched. We have known about Venezuela since the aircraft carrier was sent at the end of October. Now Greenland is closer to home, and we know about the social networks and the groomed politicians. What are we going to do to make a difference?

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              Said by someone that’s not in their position. It’s like, “those shitty slaves in North Korea are not doing enough.” Yeah, we can’t outfight the military people.

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                That’s literally what has happened in like every regime before change. Standing up to the power in place.

                I’m happy I don’t have to do that, but you must if you want change.

                You can also start small with a national strike.

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                we can’t outfight the military people

                I thought that was the whole idea with having guns, so you wouldn’t get oppressed by the government. So, now there is no reason for everyone to have guns?

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            So, your projection is that Harris would have done the same as the Trump admin? Like a “Harris Tower Hotel” in Gaza City, with the involvement of Harris’s family members in the deal?

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              Harris would not have stopped the genocide. There’s no genocide light. It’s either you’re complicit in genocide or not. Trump is objectively a horrible person and I would have never voted for him but that doesn’t make Harris not a genocide supporter.

              I thought we were past this blue MAGA bullshit.

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                So… just to confirm:

                At best, Harris would have been no better for the people of Palestine than trump. And trump is demonstrably worse for basically the entire rest of the world (pretty sure Harris wouldn’t be threatening war on Denmark/the EU, for example).

                So… your lack of a vote (which is effectively a vote for trump when you math it out) did absolutely nothing for the people you claim to care about while actively hurting everyone else.

                Good job owning the libs, I guess?

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                  People have different values, and they approach voting differently. You vote based on utilitarian ethics, but there are other moral philosophies. And ultimately utilitarianism is a deeply flawed ethical system.

                  Learn to be a good citizen in a pluralistic democracy. Your way is not the only way. Learn some humility.

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                  I‘m not American so I can’t vote for either of them, nor have I ever been to the US. But I have family in places where we had the pleasure of dealing with Bush, Obama, Trump and Biden, and frankly, neither of them has done us any good to say it very mildly.

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                Even the Biden administration was putting pressure on Israel to stop. They should have forced them, but they didn’t. There was at least a disapproval of their actions.

                Trump basically gave them the green light and said do it faster please.

                Neither good, but one approach was better

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          No American was going to save the Palestinians. They have the wrong skin colour and religion to be considered human by American standards.

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      Go burn down the city hall or something.

      Yeah, smart. Burn down a city hall to stop the federal government. Makes total sense.

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        Nothing will ever make sense to fascism enablers.

        You do you. Just keep that blaming game on point. That’s all you’ve ever known.

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          It just seems like you have no idea how the US government functions so maybe take a step back. The country is larger than your entire continent, burning down any city hall would barely even make news in DC

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            And if it did it would just get the national guard deployed in your city. And the city government wouldn’t be able to do anything to help, because their office burnt down…

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      They won’t. At least, not in significant enough numbers to matter. It’s easy to type that, but quite another thing if it’s your life and livelihood on the line.

      Historically, revolutions don’t happen without someone pretty organised and powerful to arrange them, like the Jacobins. And even then they usually fail.

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          Yeah and that “nothing happened” was because the fucking President organized it and pardoned everyone. Once again, the already powerful tend to prop up revolutions. None of the powerful here will benefit from us having a revolution unless it didnt actually change anything. No one is coming to end this. Americans better band together and figure out what they can do with some string and a pack of matches.

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          It was on behalf of the President and his party, and it was never anywhere close to seriously threatening government power. A few individual politicians, maybe.

          I guess, what’s your point?

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      My City hall turned Blue in November 2025, coming for the House Rep next. Burn the red ones, every single Republican in federal voted to hide the Epstein Files at least once.

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    I know fuck all about geopolitics but surely China and Russia at this point should just start doing crazy stuff to America.

    Like Xi could kidnap Vance and put him on trial for something.

    If the EU lets America take Greenland then there is no illusion of security anymore and America is how I’ve always seen them, bullies. At least now they own it with pride and I kinda respect that a little.

    I hate violence but if Europe wants me to join a fight against the USA. I’ll sign up tomorrow.

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      russia sure has quited down thier troll farms recently, because US is currently doing what putins wanted right now. CHina is less clear.

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    Because we live in a world governed by strength, by power.

    Oh ok then so why did they get so buttered about 9/11? It was only another group of people exercising their power and their strength.

    Not saying that terrorists should be accepted but simply that the provided justification makes no goddamn sense. But then again it is a White House official statement so why would it.

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      The problem with sense is that it is not an a priori natural constant, but created on the fly. Stephen Miller’s justification for taking Greenland is more an acknowledgment and announcement that they left the set of values that the countries of hate world (officially) agreed upon with the founding of the UN. It does make sense in the context of his set of values, and I hope he’ll end up experiencing the consequences of his believes when the roles are reversed. Without the world having to go to war to reign the US in.

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        They will most likely apply the actual military AI they have, that’s when AM will utterly fuck us all, and not in a good way.

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          I’m not sure how much military AI figures into this. Arctic conditions are famously unforgiving of electronics.

          Batteries tend to die, and components tend to freeze. The US military hasn’t really built their infrastructure to deal with extremely cold weather, they were confident that the next major conflict would occur in a nice warm desert in the middle East or maybe China at a stretch.

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      “Buttered”? What’s that mean?

      “9/11”? That false flag operation to trigger the excusing of the PNAC plan to invade 7 countries in 5 years keeping the people terrorised into an unquestioning totalitarian group think as the first phase of weapons of mass distraction to consolidate power even further? That 9/11?

      “another group”?! Same group.

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    I’ve always wanted to know if the US can survive if the rest of the world bands together and attack the US from all sides.

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      We don’t need to do that. We should all divest from America. Stop using American companies, stop buying their products etc.

      I already do this but I’m talking about governments we should treat America how it treated Cuba for so long

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        Nukes weirdly are the thing that ultimately have kept the elite on top for as long as they have. The US can, has, and does fuck with any potential movement, group, leader, or uprising anywhere that might one day threaten the wealthy, and no one can do shit about it because the oligarchs in charge of the US would rather destroy the fucking world than give up a cent.

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      It can, it’s 50% military, at least budget vise. It can’t survive if they detach from the world and burn all the bridges.

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      I’m not kidding we (Denmark) just ordered more f35s and are in the process of buying a couple of US electronic surveillance aircraft and patriot systems… Our intelligence services use Palantir for all our personal info btw

      Our politicians are still thinking that we can appease the US by funding the US military industrial complex.

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        You are not kidding, looking at the latest press releases from the U.S. Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA), Denmark has been ramping up its arms purchases from the U.S.

        Just in December 2025, they submitted four separate requests, totaling $6.5 billion.

        Edit: Source

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      To stop buying US weapons could be seen as aggressive and an escalation. It is better to buy even more US weapons so they lose more if trade between US and EU is interrupted. /s if it is not obvious

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      That’s crazy talk! Instead, Denmark will send a formal letter and order a few more billions $ worth of equipment exclusively to US makers. That should teach them!