Walz, the 2024 Democratic vice presidential nominee, cited heightened attention on fraud allegations in Minnesota

Late last month, a video from right-wing influencer Nick Shirley went viral, alleging fraud at child care facilities in Minnesota. After the video went viral, the Department of Health and Human Services announced it would freeze all federal child care payments to the state. Days later, Minnesota’s Department of Children, Youth, and Families said that investigators found the child care facilities in question “were operating as expected.”

“the political gamesmanship we’re seeing from Republicans is only making that fight harder to win. But as I reflected on this moment with my family and my team over the holidays, I came to the conclusion that I can’t give a political campaign my all,” he said. “Every minute I spend defending my own political interests would be a minute I can’t spend defending the people of Minnesota against the criminals who prey on our generosity and the cynics who prey on our differences.”

pooh-wtf

  • PKMKII [none/use name]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    69
    ·
    11 days ago

    I thought it was already established those videos were pulling claims out of their ass without anything substantial to back it up? JFC why do Dems keep acting like this right wing noise has any weight?

      • PKMKII [none/use name]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        14
        ·
        11 days ago

        Question is, do they get that they’re playing the Washington Generals to the Republicans’ Harlem Globetrotters? Or do they think the kayfabe is tit for tat and they keep getting blindsided by the Republicans not playing along in return?

          • PKMKII [none/use name]@hexbear.net
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            11 days ago

            I suspect that’s true for the top brass, but I think there’s plenty of mid and low level party members that buy the Kumbaya vision of the duo party system.

            • Infamousblt [any]@hexbear.netM
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              3
              ·
              11 days ago

              Oh that’s definitely true. I was at a community event a few months ago and the Democratic election commissioner came to the event to ask people to volunteer to be the Republican party commissioner because there isn’t ever one in my area and she thought it was important to have a Republican commissioner.

              • PKMKII [none/use name]@hexbear.net
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                2
                ·
                11 days ago

                That would work in a ruthless, machiavellian way if the plan was, become the Republican commissioner in order to make sure the local GOP is mismanaged. But I’m guessing that wasn’t her intent.

                • Infamousblt [any]@hexbear.netM
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  4
                  ·
                  11 days ago

                  No her intent was that we don’t have free and fair and balanced elections if only one party is putting in the effort, so she was looking for a Democrat to come work for the Republican side to keep things fair. Honestly the whole thing was beyond parody

    • DaMummy [none/use name]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      19
      ·
      11 days ago

      This is the point. Same how AI videos about crowd in Venezuela cheering right now are making the rounds on social media, same how it was claimed that Bernie hates disabled people, even though his political hero is someone who was in a a wheelchair, how there were stories about Marianne Williamson shitting on AIDS patients, even though she was one of the few voices speaking for the HIV patients in the 80s. Politics is a dirty game, played by a lot of dirty rotten bastards.

  • Dessa [she/her]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    52
    ·
    11 days ago

    Fucking pissed. He’s a shitlib lile all of them but at least he had the back of trans people. I’m not so sure about whoever comes next.

    I hear people floating Amy Klobuchar, and if there’s any MN dem more wrong for this moment in politics, I can’t think of who that might be.

    • Inui [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      26
      ·
      11 days ago

      reddit-logo is already shouting about how people shouldn’t criticize AIPAC Amy if they don’t want to turn the state red. Even before they’ve announced their candidacy, it’s too late to criticize.

      • InevitableSwing [none/use name]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        31
        ·
        11 days ago

        If a democrat is even considering running - it is not the time to criticize. Wait until they run, lose, and then it still isn’t the time to criticize because it never is. Vote blue no matter who!

        • Infamousblt [any]@hexbear.netM
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          14
          ·
          11 days ago

          Now that Walz isn’t running, can we finally criticize him?

          Oh wait no because that might damage the reputation of the Party, which might hurt any and all future candidates. So no sorry sweaty it’s still not time

          • InevitableSwing [none/use name]@hexbear.net
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            10
            ·
            11 days ago

            I keep waiting for some excellent “Vote blue on matter who!” Bluesky posts for c/slop because the midterms are the most important election of our lifetime. Surely they’ll start popping up in the next couple months. This is - after all - an election year.

    • Beaver [he/him]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      11
      ·
      11 days ago

      It’s gonna be Klobuchar. She’s one of those Lifers, she’s gonna have a stranglehold on the state until she’s a mummy.

  • God, Dems are so useless. I haven’t really looked very deeply into this situation other than that original video was just full of spurious claims of Somali daycares fraudulently taking a bunch of government money while not having any children that they are serving. The Democrats can’t just point out that this is using racism to put forward all these fake claims without any real evidence, their response has just been “actually, we hate fraud, so we are immediately auditing everyone and everything to stop fraud”.

    And that has left Walz and the Dems in a no-win situation. The Republicans have been calling for Walz’s resignation for overseeing all of this fraud and waste of taxpayer money. But the Dems answer is that they will step in and stop all this fraud going on, because we will treat these accusations as having merit to show that “we also hate people getting taxpayer money”, but that gives credence to the premise that they oversaw massive amounts of Somalis defrauding the government.

  • Beaver [he/him]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    31
    ·
    11 days ago

    I genuinely want to give him the benefit of the doubt, and I even believe his reasoning.

    But does he not realize that the timing of this will embolden his opponents and make the harassment of his family worse? He’s legitimately opening himself up for bogus lawfare by appearing to capitulate on charges of corruption.

    • Lussy [he/him, des/pair]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      edit-2
      11 days ago

      I genuinely want to give him the benefit of the doubt, and I even believe his reasoning.

      What is his reasoning?

      Like, if it’s that he wants to not deal with the bogus claims, then I wouldn’t say there was much reasoning involved here

  • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]@hexbear.netOP
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    27
    ·
    11 days ago

    Does anyone have a read on this situation? I can’t think of a way to interpret it besides “Yes that project veritas shit was true, the state runs fake daycare facilities you got me”

      • Carl [he/him]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        11 days ago

        Before spring we’re going to see a bill to make it illegal for a Somali person to run a daycare, by the next election season the Republicans will be running on hunting Somali immigrants for sport.

    • BimboChristmas [she/her]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      41
      ·
      11 days ago

      There is no way his entire family isn’t swimming in credible death threats right now, and after those state reps got got I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s scared of that.

      But it absolutely looks like a “you got me” thing.

    • Rojo27 [he/him]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      41
      ·
      11 days ago

      Yeah, its extremely poor timing and he’s potentially throwing the Somali community under the bus because Im sure the right will take this as “he can’t defend himself so he’s dropping out before he has to”.

      At any other point it’d be understandable and I wish more of these ghouls would step away when its clear they can’t keep up anymore.

    • Le_Wokisme [they/them, undecided]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      11 days ago

      I don’t think that’s correct, He didn’t lose them the election, chasing the Cheneys (and so on) did.

      Palin was way worse in effect, and i’d say Lieberman and Kaine were worse strategic choices.

      • MarmiteLover123 [comrade/them, any]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        11 days ago

        He didn’t lose them the election

        Harris’s poll numbers vs Trump made a U turn literally the day after the Waltz - Vance debate. It was the turning point where Trump built his momentum from.

        McCain was always going to lose 2008, so throwing Palin out there didn’t cost them much. Kaine was meh, it’s not like Pence, his direct opponent, was that great either.

        • Carl [he/him]@hexbear.net
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          edit-2
          11 days ago

          How much of that was Walz and how much of it was the Kamala’s campaign and the Dem party establishment? I seem to remember that debate being the moment it became clear that they had told him to toe the party line on every issue, turning what was a dynamic and progressive (relatively speaking for a Dem) VP candidate into a mouthpiece for the status quo.

        • Le_Wokisme [they/them, undecided]@hexbear.net
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          11 days ago

          Walz was doing very well with calling the republicans weird and muzzling him was a critical error that also cost the debate. I don’t know if not muzzling him would’ve been enough to win despite the genocide and misogynoir but I don’t think it’s his fault or a direct result of his positions like the others.

          Kaine I think being anti-choice probably hurt clinton’s turnout enough to flip a state.

          Palin was a bit of a “well fuck you then” because McCain’s first two choices were shot down by the rnc. She was a sabotage pick, whether that was necessary or not.

          and Lieberman is Lieberman.