was sent by the FBI to Tucows, a popular Canadian domain registrar.
“THE INFORMATION SOUGHT THROUGH THIS SUBPOENA RELATES TO A FEDERAL CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION BEING CONDUCTED BY THE FBI,” the subpoena says. “YOUR COMPANY IS REQUIRED TO FURNISH THIS INFORMATION. YOU ARE REQUESTED NOT TO DISCLOSE THE EXISTENCE OF THIS SUBPOENA INDEFINITELY AS ANY SUCH DISCLOSURE COULD INTERFERE WITH AN ONGOING INVESTIGATION AND ENFORCEMENT OF THE LAW.”
American FBI forgets that Canada has not yet been annexed by the United States. They’re not required to do shit, they don’t even go here.
Also why are subpoenas always in all caps? Why are you yelling at me? Learn to write. Most of us are taught how to use upper and lower case letters early in elementary school, this isn’t a sign that needs to be bold, stop being so annoying.
I’m familiar with a similar situation where a forum was hosted on a Chinese server that has a bunch of Americans on it talking about a security hole in their company. FBI did a sad attempt at hard man interviews with some of the Americans and got nothing so they sent a subpoena to the webmaster demanding they turn over all logs and the webmaster just replied asking if they bothered to figure out where the server was. I think the FBI are just fundamentally bad it their jobs.
are they bad or are they gretzkying that people comply even though they don’t have to?
I guess that’s possible, but I think if they’re resorting to that it would generally be because they’re bad at their jobs. I suspect if they didn’t suggest and plan terrorist attacks for their patsies, they’d rarely catch anybody other than the most inept of criminals.
I wonder what their plan to proceed is once they’ve found out that the project is run by the child of some Russian oligarch (just speculating here). Their subpoena isn’t even to the same continent as the datacenter.
Freeze their mastercard?
we have the best sanctions, jack
probably comes down to whether they have a “send subpoena” button
or it could be graft on the part of agents.
Sending all caps letters to webmasters probably just works a considerable amount of the times.
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the FBI are just bad at their jobs
They’re gonna make so much kiddie porn and prove. You. Wrong.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER.
American FBI forgets that Canada has not yet been annexed by the United States. They’re not required to do shit, they don’t even go here.
I’m sure they do plenty of business in the US, though, so I don’t think the feds would have trouble turning the screws if they needed to. But I’d be happy to be proven wrong!
Tucows is a Canadian-American company on the NASDAQ. So this explains why the FBI tried them first before going more international and knocking on OVHs door.
They also seem to have a pretty laissez-faire approach to who they provide services to (all the nazi sites).
Also why are subpoenas always in all caps? Why are you yelling at me?
Legal intimidation mostly. It’s parlour tricks. Same reason the cops shout.
Invoking GamerGate is hilarious
As the header to a paragraph that admits it’s “used to save snapshots of articles or government websites that are likely to change or be deleted”, no less. Trying to hide the fundamental utility of this website.
Wouldn’t an archiving service be improved by utilizing a federated, decentralized model? A large decentralized network of archiving servers that can not only A) act as redundant backup for archived sites but also B) act as different points of entry for the archiving process.
The whole reason you’re attempting to archive things like this is for both freedom of access and also preservation of information, right? Having that kind of service in a centralized form seems like a huge problem.
Not many people can mirror what is probably a couple of petabytes.
And ensuring preservation and availability across unreliable nodes is pretty difficult, requires considerable redundancy. How many people are willing to do that especially when it’s legally difficult?
edit: and how many people would keep their mirrors up when FBI/Europol start cracking down on people hosting mirrors.
edit: There seems to have been an effort to decentralize internetarchive on dweb. But I’m not sure how serious dweb is, it seems to have been a vehicle to promote crypto (the blockchain kind) at least in part.
I also found out that KDE (the linux desktop) is funded by big meat (Tönnies), through Blue Systems. They sponsor dweb too. Just random aside.
Essentially the same built-in problems that crypto has. The model works for blogging, like twitter and reddit clones. It’s just not the right set up for frequent requests or a huge amount of storage.
That being said, I hope a few of the mirrors are exploiting the current geo-political climate. Canada may eventually fold, but a server in Russia or China ought to be well enough removed.
The issue with that is you need volunteers with the infrastructure to run the nodes, and each one would be subject to as much legal liability and the person running a centralised service
The subpoena, which was posted on X by archive.today on October 30, was sent by the FBI to Tucows, a popular Canadian domain registrar. It demands that Tucows give the FBI the “customer or subscriber name, address of service, and billing address” and other information about the “customer behind archive.today.”
The site owner should opensource their code before that happens so that it is fundamentally useless. A dozen copies will go up the moment it goes down.
The code itself, while useful, is probably less useful than the archived data. Unless each copy has both, and new snapshots can somehow be shared between them, it’s still a pretty massive loss.
We should really get rid of them.
Electorally I mean.
Oh fuck I’m gonna vooot
volth is behind archive? I remember seeing them in the nixos github community.
The FBI* can idi na’huy.
