• mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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    13 hours ago

    haven’t you ever heard of christian science? it’s not science either, by scientific standards, but believers LOVE to muddy the waters and cast their FAITH as something tangible, provable, worthy of science.

    It’s all a distraction, again, from actual science.

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      12 hours ago

      provable

      yes, theologians argue that logic is enough to prove the existence of God: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalam_cosmological_argument
      If you refute logic/reason cuz you only like science that you experiment on, then you’re too caught in the material buddy. Remember that math doesn’t seem to follow the scientific method either you know ? Please don’t tell me you refute it too.

      I notice that the word I know in my language kalam is a little different from theology, but theology is the closest translation I have.

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        Mathematics is all about developing logical tools. Basically things like “if we start with this assumption, then you can make this conclusion”. After you’ve developed all of these tools, then you can look at the universe around you and apply those tools to your observations in order to come to new conclusions about that same universe. There necessarily needs to be that input that ties it back to reality. Mathematics on its own doesn’t tell us anything about reality.

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        11 hours ago

        theologians argue that logic is enough to prove the existence of God

        they have to. science keeps painting ‘god’ into a smaller and smaller corner every day.

        Remember that math doesn’t seem to follow the scientific method either you know

        LOLOLOL

        it’s repeatedly provable, stood the test of time, like the scientific method, it’s consistency and reproducibility weigh much more than philosophy stack exchange k thnks.

        this really isn’t a discussion I’m interested in continuing.