I have always wondered why the meat free products always try to pretend to be meat products. Feels like its limiting factor in what plant based food could be. Make new and exciting things, and maybe people will be more likely to try them. Cos you if want a burger, youre just going to get a proper burger. But if you fancy something different, maybe a (insert original vegan dish here) is something people would be open to trying, without the limiting factor, which is usually “Its ok, but it doesnt taste like…”. Stop trying to make it taste like something else, and just focus on making it taste good in its own right.
Fucking hell, you people are weird as fuck about a strangers random wondering.
You’re looking at a specific niche within vegetarian / vegan products and argue that the aim of that specific niche (imitating meat) applies to all of the products? There are lots of those. But I don’t want to eat cereal with water, hence “oat milk” makes sense if you don’t want to contribute to animal exploitation. I don’t know why it’s so hard to understand for some people that you might like the taste of something yet don’t agree with the ethics behind it and then being this non-argument.
But I don’t want to eat cereal with water, hence “oat milk” makes sense
Except that oat have not milk.
“oat juice” would not seems to bad as an alternative, for example. And the same applies to others vegan substitute of the milk.
It’s not juice because juice needs to be 100% fruit extract without additives, not even water, so that certainly isn’t juice. The question is, how would you call something that looks like milk, tastes like milk (there is no universal milk taste anyways as it tastes different or mammal and their feed) and is used in the same circumstances for the same things as milk?
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, is it really helpful to go “ehm actually this isn’t a duck”? What is the point of such a distinction?
It’s not juice because juice needs to be 100% fruit extract without additives, not even water, so that certainly isn’t juice.
Not sure, I think that there must be a minimum quantity of fruit, but I am not sure about the fact that you cannot add water, else you could not have a variety of fruit juices, like apricot, peach and similar.
The question is, how would you call something that looks like milk, tastes like milk (there is no universal milk taste anyways as it tastes different or mammal and their feed) and is used in the same circumstances for the same things as milk?
“Oat extract” comes to mind, for example, if we want to keep it short, but I am sure that a marketing team can come up with better ideas.
The point is that it is not milk, it still is a vegetable extract. But I don’t really think that oat (or any other plant based) milk taste like real milk, I’ve tasted all of them (family problems) and I can assure you that you cannot trick anybody to drink oat milk thinking it is real milk.
Then ok, these vegetable “milks” have their uses and for people who cannot drink real milk they can be a good option.
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, is it really helpful to go “ehm actually this isn’t a duck”? What is the point of such a distinction?
Because its NEVER going to be the thing you want it to be. So instead of trying to fool yourself, just embrace new things. Are you really so fucking weak minded that need food shaped and styled like burgers just to eat it???
I feel that way about the veggie patties a job I worked used to sell. No attempt to copy the flavor or texture of beef, they were just doing their own thing. Sometimes I’d actually be in the mood for one.
I went vegetarian a couple years ago. Those substitutes made the transition a lot easier. Theres something about the flavor profile and texture thats familiar and enjoyable. The quality of meat alternatives has gotten a lot better over the last few years.
Stop trying to make it taste like something else, and just focus on making it taste good in its own right.
Why do you give a shit what people like to eat without abusing animals? Let us eat things that look how we want it - it does not hurt your need of abusing animals.
Steak and burger are just descriptors - I see no problem with labeling plant based items for what they are trying to mimic. As long as it’s abundantly clear that it is indeed plant based, what is the harm in using references to describe the flavor / texture palette. These products typically don’t taste just like their ingredients directly so I find the comparisons helpful. Lots of things do this. Lots of items do meat flavoring mimicry, but do not contain the meat product. This seems unnecessary and a slippery slope to make into law.
I have always wondered why the meat free products always try to pretend to be meat products. Feels like its limiting factor in what plant based food could be. Make new and exciting things, and maybe people will be more likely to try them. Cos you if want a burger, youre just going to get a proper burger. But if you fancy something different, maybe a (insert original vegan dish here) is something people would be open to trying, without the limiting factor, which is usually “Its ok, but it doesnt taste like…”. Stop trying to make it taste like something else, and just focus on making it taste good in its own right.
Fucking hell, you people are weird as fuck about a strangers random wondering.
You’re looking at a specific niche within vegetarian / vegan products and argue that the aim of that specific niche (imitating meat) applies to all of the products? There are lots of those. But I don’t want to eat cereal with water, hence “oat milk” makes sense if you don’t want to contribute to animal exploitation. I don’t know why it’s so hard to understand for some people that you might like the taste of something yet don’t agree with the ethics behind it and then being this non-argument.
Except that oat have not milk.
“oat juice” would not seems to bad as an alternative, for example. And the same applies to others vegan substitute of the milk.
It’s not juice because juice needs to be 100% fruit extract without additives, not even water, so that certainly isn’t juice. The question is, how would you call something that looks like milk, tastes like milk (there is no universal milk taste anyways as it tastes different or mammal and their feed) and is used in the same circumstances for the same things as milk?
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, is it really helpful to go “ehm actually this isn’t a duck”? What is the point of such a distinction?
Not sure, I think that there must be a minimum quantity of fruit, but I am not sure about the fact that you cannot add water, else you could not have a variety of fruit juices, like apricot, peach and similar.
“Oat extract” comes to mind, for example, if we want to keep it short, but I am sure that a marketing team can come up with better ideas.
The point is that it is not milk, it still is a vegetable extract. But I don’t really think that oat (or any other plant based) milk taste like real milk, I’ve tasted all of them (family problems) and I can assure you that you cannot trick anybody to drink oat milk thinking it is real milk.
Then ok, these vegetable “milks” have their uses and for people who cannot drink real milk they can be a good option.
Except that it is a vegetable.
Because its NEVER going to be the thing you want it to be. So instead of trying to fool yourself, just embrace new things. Are you really so fucking weak minded that need food shaped and styled like burgers just to eat it???
Great job missing the point
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I feel that way about the veggie patties a job I worked used to sell. No attempt to copy the flavor or texture of beef, they were just doing their own thing. Sometimes I’d actually be in the mood for one.
Veggie burgers have been around since the 1940s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veggie_burger
I went vegetarian a couple years ago. Those substitutes made the transition a lot easier. Theres something about the flavor profile and texture thats familiar and enjoyable. The quality of meat alternatives has gotten a lot better over the last few years.
Why do you give a shit what people like to eat without abusing animals? Let us eat things that look how we want it - it does not hurt your need of abusing animals.
Don’t feed the troll with veggie burgers
Steak and burger are just descriptors - I see no problem with labeling plant based items for what they are trying to mimic. As long as it’s abundantly clear that it is indeed plant based, what is the harm in using references to describe the flavor / texture palette. These products typically don’t taste just like their ingredients directly so I find the comparisons helpful. Lots of things do this. Lots of items do meat flavoring mimicry, but do not contain the meat product. This seems unnecessary and a slippery slope to make into law.