• Laser@feddit.org
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    1 day ago

    You’re looking at a specific niche within vegetarian / vegan products and argue that the aim of that specific niche (imitating meat) applies to all of the products? There are lots of those. But I don’t want to eat cereal with water, hence “oat milk” makes sense if you don’t want to contribute to animal exploitation. I don’t know why it’s so hard to understand for some people that you might like the taste of something yet don’t agree with the ethics behind it and then being this non-argument.

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      23 hours ago

      But I don’t want to eat cereal with water, hence “oat milk” makes sense

      Except that oat have not milk.
      “oat juice” would not seems to bad as an alternative, for example. And the same applies to others vegan substitute of the milk.

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        22 hours ago

        It’s not juice because juice needs to be 100% fruit extract without additives, not even water, so that certainly isn’t juice. The question is, how would you call something that looks like milk, tastes like milk (there is no universal milk taste anyways as it tastes different or mammal and their feed) and is used in the same circumstances for the same things as milk?

        If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, is it really helpful to go “ehm actually this isn’t a duck”? What is the point of such a distinction?

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          6 hours ago

          It’s not juice because juice needs to be 100% fruit extract without additives, not even water, so that certainly isn’t juice.

          Not sure, I think that there must be a minimum quantity of fruit, but I am not sure about the fact that you cannot add water, else you could not have a variety of fruit juices, like apricot, peach and similar.

          The question is, how would you call something that looks like milk, tastes like milk (there is no universal milk taste anyways as it tastes different or mammal and their feed) and is used in the same circumstances for the same things as milk?

          “Oat extract” comes to mind, for example, if we want to keep it short, but I am sure that a marketing team can come up with better ideas.
          The point is that it is not milk, it still is a vegetable extract. But I don’t really think that oat (or any other plant based) milk taste like real milk, I’ve tasted all of them (family problems) and I can assure you that you cannot trick anybody to drink oat milk thinking it is real milk.
          Then ok, these vegetable “milks” have their uses and for people who cannot drink real milk they can be a good option.

          If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, is it really helpful to go “ehm actually this isn’t a duck”? What is the point of such a distinction?

          Except that it is a vegetable.

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      1 day ago

      Because its NEVER going to be the thing you want it to be. So instead of trying to fool yourself, just embrace new things. Are you really so fucking weak minded that need food shaped and styled like burgers just to eat it???