i gave cyberpunk2077 another shot after hating it at launch because multiple people pestered me about it for two years. i was repeatedly told of my lengthy list of criticisms, “they fixed all that, it’s like a totally different game now”.
10 hours later it’s clear that they’re either:
a) delusional b) liars c) literally cannot hear criticism of the game being spoken aloud
because that shit was 99% identical to at launch, bugs included. the difference between the game that people keep describing to me and the game in front of me is so stark that i’m fucking baffled. it’s like it’s a cult or something.
Ultimately you’re free to not like it but lol for getting upset with other people enjoying it
i’m upset that i’m literally not allowed to have more concrete reasons to dislike it than “must be about bugs” and “personal taste” as if i’m too stupid to know the difference between “actually bad” and “just not for me”
The concrete reasons you’ve mentioned so far are essentially rationalizations of your subjective experience. “Bullet sponge” isnt a ‘concrete’ metric, and neither are a lot of your other complaints. Again, you’re absolutely free to hate the game - but pretending as if your feelings on the subject are somehow universally constant and the many people who disagree are just making their opinions up is fantasy.
The only one insisting on their review as an objective fact is you.
bruh my inbox has been exploding and only like one person in this thread actually asked me to list specific things. most people here are putting shit in my mouth about the launch bugs for some reason, many more are condescending to me and telling me i’m crazy and irrational, and yet more are simply throwing shit because i had a take they didn’t agree with.
“the combat system is balanced poorly” was pretty clearly my meaning, like in no world should it take nine bullets to the face to kill an average dude, it’s an outright ridiculous consequence of the way that the combat math works. that is concrete, i have identified a thing that exists outside of and apart from my feelings and what seems to be wrong with it besides vaguely “i just don’t like it”. see how that’s different from the “MY VAGUE OPINION IS THE ONLY OBJECTIVE FACTUAL TRUTH” stance you’re trying to pin to me? it speaks volumes about you that you conflate critique with opinion and concreteness with objectivity so broadly and nuancelessly.
“This is how this mechanic should work” is an opinion any way you’d like to slice it, chief.
It’s ok to say you prefer more realism, but it’s still a preference.
yeah, imagine that
dude my library is full of games i played for a couple hours and came away able to praise even though i didn’t like it. i disliked the Bioshock games for example, but i can acknowledge they good games with a lot of merit and you won’t catch me going off and talking shit. GTA 5 is a piece of shit but i have over a hundred hours because the over the top rudeness and mayhem make it enjoyable - because of my personal taste. i’ll leave it to your clearly superior and highly developed intellect to puzzle out what’s different about cp77.
So OP is the one playing some other game here and the people in OP’s post are the ones shouting quit having fun, right? RIGHT? Because it was clear to me OP was mainly upset at being pestered into playing a game OP didn’t want too.
Friendo, the post called me a cultist for liking that game. Like it’s kinda mid, but still enjoyable. Yes, 77 was overhyped in marketing, then released in a barely playable state, but when the worst problems were fixed the hype was still there, cuz it’s (surprisingly) somewhat of a unique setting in AAA space. And overhyping your product is exactly how you do marketing well
OP is the one complaining about people enjoying a game because they didn’t like it themselves. They aren’t quietly enjoying a different game, they’re posting about not liking one everyone else is enjoying.
Others: “I like this game, I think its really good” OP: “STOP SAYING THE GAME IS GOOD I THINK YOU’RE DELUSIONAL”
I dont see anyone in this thread pestering OP about changing their opinion, only OP railing against it and accusing everyone else of lying or being delusional.
A bunch of people came into this thread to tell OP “It’s good actually” so yeah, of course they’re going to push back on that? They originally called their friends delusional for saying the bugs had been fixed.
A bunch of people came in to say they thought it was good - op is the only one casting accusations.
Honestly, it’s fine - op is entitled to their opinion. I just dont think a lot of people agree with it. People swear by Fallout New Vegas being amazing but I couldn’t get into it. I understand being made to feel like you’re missing something or not playing a game right for your lack of enjoyment. But if I came in hot with a ‘you are all fucking delusional for not seeing how bad this game is’ I would rightly be laughed out of the room.
OP made this whole thread to come in and complain that “this massively popular game that millions of people love is garbage, actually” and then when some of those millions of people come in to ask what this is all about and try to defend their opinion, they’re hit with “no you’re delusional” and lies about the state of the game
Maybe they should use less inflamatory language? Like, cmon, opinions can differ, just don’t be assholes about it