Hey all. I’d like to open an official discussion regarding the upturning of the prior Hexbear party line on an :israel-cool: emote proper with the unambiguous Zionist flag.
I want to preface this by saying this is not in a ‘ceding the issue’ way. Over the past year I’ve been trying to engage in self-crit w/rt the chauvinism I’ve internalized growing up in a Liberal Zionist household, and my personal viewpoint on it did a 180 some months back, so I want to reopen this discussion proper in my personal capacities as Self-Appointed Emote Czar.
The reason it’s taken long enough beyond that is prior to July, I was essentially half-engaged with the site in order to finish out my degree. After that, it’s been mostly inertia of confirming with the admins and other /c/Judaism mods, as well as having to be rigorous about my job search personally giving me little free time to coordinate this.
I do not want to center myself in this conversation more than I inadvertently already have, so I will leave my own opinion on the issue as a comment rather than explaining further here.
The consensus we’ve roughly come to is to open up the discussion in an official manner for a day or so. After that, I’ll weigh the discussion in an entirely vibes-based manner (sorry Dean Norris enjoyers) and we’ll alter Hexbear party line on it accordingly.
1: Add the emoji. Having the exemption for the zionist rag is accepting the zionist point that they represent Judaism and Jews as a whole. This is antisemitic.
2: Ban professorowl_PhD. Calling people holocaust supporters for saying the flag should be burned is an identical position to zionists like the judge who recently banned it in
. If someone were to lock the doors or a zionist barracks and burn it down, would that be bad because it’s like the Holocaust, or should it be celebrated as an act of resistance?
Complete agreement with you on this. It is an absurd situation where z_poster gets banned for being completely correct about this while professorowl is just doing rote zionist hasbara without consequence.
+1, I would also like to see a self crit from the admin who did the “holocaust emote” line.
That same admin also dismissed Zposter (under an alt) saying their mods make death threats when said mod has multiple comments removed for making death threats and one for telling Zposter they should die
Which admin did this? I was the one who linked a mod basically ignoring the case of SeekTheDeletion being told to die, and I only saw a mod, not admin.
Nakoichi told Zposter to die by saying something like “touch six feet under” instead of touch grass
Can any news mega heads confirm something?
spoilered in case my info was wrong
That Nakoichi was the mod who harrased away @aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net, a prominent global south user?
I think a couple different people got suggested as possible culprits and it was hard to tell who it was because they were operating heavily through alts.
I don’t remember anyone suggesting that Nakoichi was responsible at the time, but because death threats were involved Z-poster brought up their own experiences with Nakoichi during the conversation around it which may be what you’re remembering?
damn i was wondering why i hadn’t seen that user around in awhile, i always appreciated their takes esp insight into South Africa
That user made an alt and still posts
I know, I brought it up myself. I meant to ask which admin, not mod, had been defending that incident.
FWIW I think they meant this thread in which Lyudmila essentially said to get over it, which I think is inappropriate regardless of how uncouth the user in question was being.
Dont like being told to die? God you’re so online stop being dramatic.
Jesus Christ
Yeah, very gaslight-ish argument.
Now, there isn’t a way to say this without coming across as victim blaming or bothsidesing, but I can also see why Lyudmila reacted that way. Someone who was, at minimum, imitating Zposter has posted some extremely bad things before (to save you a click, they were using an incident of SA against an activist in PSL by another activist in PSL to defend the PCUSA). I think given this context I don’t expect Lyudmila to be removed over this incident, but I don’t think her response there should go unnoticed either.
edit: Could be a copycat
For some reason I’m struggling with linking the actual comment but its the reply to this one
https://hexbear.net/comment/6421895