This is crazy lmao
For some context, the woman pictured is the incarnation of War (hence her love for America).
More context: Nuclear weapons got erased from reality in the past, weakening her. But the US is so bloodthirsty they ended up reinventing them from first principles.
Wait is chainsaw man kinda based ? Or at least has something to say?
Chainsaw Man is extremely based and absolutely has something to say. It’s a very political series, and Fujimoto is a supremely talented writer. I’d recommend giving it a try.
I thought the series was going to be for chuds tbh because of Elon and Milei constantly referencing it.
Now I feel bad and I should probably give it a chance and read it.
Would you not watch the matrix because “redpill” is now incel lingo?
You could force feed them messaging and chuds would still vomit up the point. Bad metric
It’s honestly insane that Milei like co-opted a series about a guy living in crushing poverty being used as a meat shield by an uncaring government. Like the themes explored in the series are so against bootstrap libertarianism.
Elon and Milei constantly referencing it.
I’m not familiar with this. Are they just using the name because they think it fits their chainsaw motif?
I think it’s more trying to do the whole
routine.The comments on that thread are hell.
Do you know which came first, the weird news bit or Milei doing this stuff?
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His one-offs are also amazing, especially “Goodbye, Eri” and “Look Back”. I was actually kinda thinking of showing the Look Back film this Friday but I’ll probably ask people first.
Oh I had no idea he wrote Look Back. That movie is so heartbreaking.
I read up until
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Denji starting school after eating Makima and Power being gone but I thought it dropped the government conspiracy recruiting devil hunter plot line so I got bored and dropped it.
Part 2 does take a while to get going, it probably reads better now in a binge rather than week to week
Great, I’ll hop back on then
Yeah Part 2 has a very slow start, and shifts focus to another character entirely for a bit. Very much worth it to read more imo
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In addition to what others posted, the main character Denji (AKA Chainsaw Man) is only 16 years old. The adults around him are constantly abusing and manipulating him due to his powers. Sure, he’s a horny teenager with zero education. Yet nobody around him is looking out for his best interests or raising him to be a functional adult.
It’s one of the major themes in the series. This is just a kid being sent to face horrors from literal Hell with no regard to what kind of impact this could have on his psyche.
Death of the Author just means that an author’s interpretation of their work doesn’t supersede a reader’s interpretation and that both can be equally valid.
WHAT PART OF THE STAR SPANGLED BANNER BEING PLAYED OVER THE CHARRED CORPSES OF THE VICTIMS OF A NUCLEAR ATTACK BY AMERICA CAN BE CONSTRUED AS COMPLIMENTARY OR “LOOKING AWESOME”?!?! YOU’RE NOT INTERPRETING OR ENGAGING WITH THE WORK OF FICTION IN FRONT OF YOU, YOU’RE HALLUCINATING AT BEST OR AT WORST ACTIVELY REWRITING THE NARRATIVE TO SUIT YOUR GHOULISH PREFERENCES! THE AUTHOR ISN’T DEAD, YOU MURDERED THE POOR FUCKER! AND FOR WHAT, SO YOUR POOR EGO ISN’T BRUISED AND YOU WON’T NEED TO REFLECT ON WHAT THE STORY IS TRYING TO TELL YOU ABOUT REAL LIFE? YOU’RE BASICALLY ADMITTING THAT SENSELESS MASS DEATH IS COOL YOU FUCKING MONSTER! AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
Sorry had to scream into the void for a bit, but that take in the comments was wild.
Anyway got this gem from r/curatedtumbler, which is basically what happens when I’m asked to explain what Chainsaw Man is about after a few drinks, and the reply is “it’s not that deep bro” - a lot of vindicated literature students out there today:
WHAT PART OF THE STAR SPANGLED BANNER BEING PLAYED OVER THE CHARRED CORPSES OF THE VICTIMS OF A NUCLEAR ATTACK BY AMERICA CAN BE CONSTRUED AS COMPLIMENTARY OR “LOOKING AWESOME”?!?!
Worshipping power. When your empire is morally bankrupt, you have to replace morals with something. Social Darwinism and all the other shit that replaces humanity and inevitably creates fascism.
I mean it’s not like this wasn’t foreshadowed with the American thugs in Part 1 and the whole Statue of Liberty stuff earlier in Part 2, but God damn does Fujimoto really hate America. Bruv really just said
in a wildly popular manga, nothing but respect.
More and more people are saying this folks
This is not something new for Fujimoto btw, this is how he drew “Captain America”:
The greatest minds of
are going around calling Fujimoto based and praising this depiction on a recent thread talking about this chapter lol. Truly media literacy is dead.Like, praising this depection in a “wow this really captures the truly demonic aspect of American imperialism” way or a “wow America is cool I love death” way?
the reading comprehension devil also loves america
The reading comprehension devil was eaten by Chainsaw Man a long time ago
If you had to bet what do you think? In all seriousness the latter unfortunately. Pretty typical on on shit like /r/propagandaposters where chuds inevitable jerk off to the badassery of the US state massacring civilians.
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and op you didnt even include the best part, hog amerikkkans cheering on the nuking of the USSR
Fujimoto knows writers who use subtext and they’re all cowards
Fujimoto knows writers who use subtext and they’re all cowards
Isn’t this literally a line from a character that is a parody ,do you agree with the character or not comrade
I don’t agree with the character, but in this case the message is so blatant that it’s funny to quote him
I do feel like there is some truth that sometimes using subtext is cowardly but I get you
It’s a quote from an actual writer in an interview.
Miyazaki 🤝 Fujimoto Despising the USAraki has been shitting on America for decades as well.
that’s fucking WILD
THEY NUKED THE USSRI have only read Part 1 (loved it) and forgot when the series took place
when does part 1 take place ,I have read part 1 entirely ,just don’t spoil me on part 2
Alternate universe 1990s.
yea I remember that which is why I am confused ,in this universe the USSR still exists (idk how I forgot damn)
Chainsaw Man starts circa 1997 but history has been warped by several factors, implicitly due to
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Chainsaw Man erasing the history and memory of Nazis, atomic weaponry, AIDS, and other important historical features
though at the same time it takes place even in a very different universe than ours even beyond Devils because of elements that
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Chainsaw Man also erased that have seemingly cosmic importance, like “Four possible conclusions other than death at the end of living beings’ lifespans,” which suggests the base state of the universe was a much more bizarre fantasy situation that Chainsaw Man dragged down to the lower fantasy of Devils and Hell being the only fantasy elements (a distinction that only exists on a meta-textual level, of course) before averting the reality of that world by also eating a bunch of real things.
thanks
There’s also a bath scene in the manga where denji sings a pro union song
Lmao. Brutal.
Between this and South Park, chuds are intubated and on life support
What’s this from?
The latest Chainsaw Man chapter, just came out today. The whole series is very good.
Ah. I never got into it origianlly. Maybe I should change that.
It’s really worth your time. Fujimoto is a wonderful writer, the series has tremendous emotional weight in a way that doesn’t really happen in manga. Combine that with the fact that Fujimoto is almost certainly some flavour of socialist and he’s not afraid to get Weird and you’ve got a great series. Also Part 2 has a really well done lovable girl failure autistic queen that everybody loves.
Man Who Grew Up In Poverty Has Some Things To Say About How Society Is Organised -
Das KapitalChainsaw Man Part 1What’s better between this and Jujutsu Kaisen? (The other shonen manga I’ve been hearing about lately that got super popular.)
JJK is all style and very little substance. It’s EXTREMELY stylish, so stylish that you almost forget there’s no substance beyond hype moments and aura farming. But Chainsaw Man is the superior story by a mile.
Chainsaw Man is better by a mile, but I think you’re severely underrating JJK’s substance. It’s got a ton of theming and symbolism, mostly very rooted in Japanese religious heritage and some that I think literally just doesn’t end up being translated all that well (e.g. the narrative is all about curses with a lowercase c).
JJK is fun and flashy but it’s a bit thin when it comes to deeper themes, especially compared to Chainsaw man. It nails the vibes of how apocalyptic everything feels nowadays, but it doesn’t really do anything more with it than that. Between the two I’d recommend Chainsaw man, although to be fair to JJK it is really not that bad and you could do a lot worse
Jujutsu Kaisen is just fights and powerscaling. Its fights are really well done, but there’s little emotional depth or real themes. If you want like cool fighting shonen, Jujutsu Kaisen is great. Chainsaw Man is not really interested in fights or powerscaling, and is much more interested in characters and themes. I vastly prefer Chainsaw Man, but that’s because fighting shonen whoa cool power stuff doesn’t appeal to me.
I’ll just c/p my other comment:
Chainsaw Man is better by a mile, but I think you’re severely underrating JJK’s substance. It’s got a ton of theming and symbolism, mostly very rooted in Japanese religious heritage and some that I think literally just doesn’t end up being translated all that well (e.g. the narrative is all about curses with a lowercase c).
And also add that Chainsaw Man actually does do a lot of powerscaling, though it was more prevalent in Part 1 and it usually doesn’t take center stage except when Primal Devils are relevant. Probably the most iconic example of doing theming and powerscaling at the same time are the Gun Devil attacks, because there’s obviously thematic and narrative weight to them, but a substantial portion of it is also “This thing killed 300,000 people [and leveled part of a city!] in 2.4 seconds,” which is inevitably relevant to the issue of opposing the Gun Devil, though ironically the main practical results of its feats are that they are themselves terrifying and thereby making the Gun Devil more powerful.
JJK also does way less powerscaling later on too, because the rank system becomes irrelevant and, like often happens, it becomes more “here’s the top tier and here’s everyone else and we don’t really know how to compare people in the top tier except by having them fight to the death, at which point knowing their comparative strength is no longer a tactical advantage because one of them is dead”. Like 90% of the powerscaling content of the last ~quarter of the series is “Gojo is better than you” and “Sukuna is better than you.”
Jujutsu Kaisen leans Marxist-Leninist, Chainsaw man actually delves deeper into Stalinism and some of Stalin’s speeches and written works. There’s even a part all about kulaks and the violence the bourgeois will enact to maintain their wealth and power, and goes into dialectical materialism. Makima, the main character’s boss, is literally just authoritarian tankie-ism embodied in a person and as a woman to reflect that under Stalinism everyone had equal oppression opportunities. She literally also feeds Denji instead of paying him, reflecting the adage ‘who doesn’t work, doesn’t eat’ and because money is a capitalist social invention.
JJK is a fun power system and well done fights and has strong theming but a lot of it from my recollection is based in Shintoism and Buddhism and can fly over your head unless locked in. Outside of that, I think JJK is the one that is easier to engage with at a surface level.
I preferred JJK personally due to its simpler surface leading to better social aspects when reading live, but chainsaw man is definitely the more complex. Dunno if id like JJK as much on a reread rn.
If I want to get started with the series, what version should I start reading on what site? I saw on mangadex that there is an official colored release, but it doesn’t have english chapters uploaded.
Mangadex complies with takedown requests, so they’ll only host the english chapters that are officially available for free (the first 3 and the most recent 3). There are a bunch of sites hosting pirated versions of it, though you’ll obviously want an adblocker (here’s one from a quick google).
Any old fansite is fine, there are a ton and you just need an adblocker
wheres the based devil because im lowkey scared of how based fishymoto is
Damn, I should read Chainsaw Man. How long is it?
210 chapters as of today
Good lord, how long does it take to finish a chapter?
Chapters are anywhere between 10 and 20 pages. They’re really short.
Just timed myself rereading today’s chapter and got 48 seconds. Going off that, and adjusting for the fact that I already knew what happened so I’d be reading it faster, I’d say between 1-3 minutes.
10 hours isn’t bad
I blew through all of Part 1 reading the collected volumes in about a week, but I was taking breaks and not doing everything in one sitting. 1 volume (8 chapters) took me about 2 hours to read on average I think? But I read slow so ymmv
Its really good
