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vegeta1 [he/him]@hexbear.net to chapotraphouse@hexbear.netEnglish · 4 months ago

Gen Z college grads expect to earn more than $100,000 at their first job. Their actual paycheck is a rude awakening

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Gen Z college grads expect to earn more than $100,000 at their first job. Their actual paycheck is a rude awakening

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vegeta1 [he/him]@hexbear.net to chapotraphouse@hexbear.netEnglish · 4 months ago
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Youthful optimism meets economic reality.
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  • happybadger [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    smuglord I hope to earn enough to pay my rent and have teeth+food

    • take_five_moments [any]@hexbear.net
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      teeth AND food?? dream big ig

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        teeth do be a luxury

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        That’s only if I get the permanent version of my job instead of the seasonal 0 hour contract version. Then I get to keep my bones while doing the same work for $40k/year. Right now I’m rentmaxxing with strategic food.

  • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    Is it true young people are becoming more right-wing or is that just the media trying to start generational warfare bullshit?

    • Dimmer06 [he/him,comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      Iirc in many countries young men are becoming more right wing while other young people are going further left.

      • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]@hexbear.net
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        Why, men, why? kitty-cri

        • Robert_Kennedy_Jr [xe/xem, xey/xem]@hexbear.net
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          Having the plague for a few years during a formative time in their lives and having a ton of time to get sucked into YouTube rabbit holes that invariably start recommending conservative content had a big part to play.

        • hexthismess [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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          large-adult-son hesitation-1

        • Pentacat [he/him]@hexbear.net
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          Sorry, I tried. I realized society was bullshit and I had sex, but no other men followed me.

          • SkingradGuard [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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            and I had sex

            Honestly as funny as this is, it’s not really true…I haven’t touched someone in like 6 years and I’m not a Nazi. It’s more than this.

            • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]@hexbear.net
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              My money is on it being a mix of the algorithm promoting right-wing shit and an ineffectual centrist liberalism being associated with the left.

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              I haven’t touched someone in like 6 years and I’m not a Nazi. It’s more than this.

              there’s a fork in the road and it’s down to whether you think women are people or chattel.

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      • mendiCAN [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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        Imma guess that there are plenty of young ppl moving left but like always the right wing-ey media erase the left

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      Not sure but the gender divide in terms of political alignment seems to be getting more stark.

    • jackmaoist [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      In India the young are full on fash now. Liberals and Leftists exist in some elite circles but the majority is trash.

      • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]@hexbear.net
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        jokerfication

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      westoid men are yeah

      • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]@hexbear.net
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        I fucking hate everything

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          i hate them specifically

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      It’s specifically young men that are becoming more right wing. I heard some poll numbers last week since Trump’s approval ratings are tanking. Controlling for male vs female, Gen Z has the biggest gap with 45% of men supporting Trump and 24% of women doing the same in the 18-29 age bracket.

      Tbh the COVID shutdown had serious reverberations through the culture that are going to be with us for the rest of our lives. People shouldn’t have been exposed to that much internet.

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        What shutdown? Do you mean the mass infection events that were constantly happening in bars through 2020 and 2021 followed by the liberal capitulation and peeling off of the already rarely followed public health advice?

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          There was like a couple weeks where some people were forced to work and school remotely and that was horrible, check your privilege sweaty smuglord amerikkka-clap the-democrat

          P.S. Preaching to the choir here, but more people should wear masks even though we’re more than 5 years in… even if you don’t care about others’ health, there are other benefits to wearing them hexbear-direct-action

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          Most countries did try to prevent the plague slightly more than the US did. The “shutdown” was probably more about schools being closed for a few weeks/months and young men getting turned insane by youtube propaganda / anti-woke grifters.

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    Gen Z is graduating college with jobs?

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      Gen Z still has the attention span necessary to graduate high school?

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        tbh us millenials didn’t have much of an attention span in high school. We were all hornyposting via notes passed between each other (since not everyone had a cell phone) and had to have books with bright, colorful pictures in them. Good luck getting us to read something with black and white diagrams or just nothing but text.

      • imogen_underscore [it/its, she/her]@hexbear.net
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        low effort

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        Ok boomer.

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    If minimum wage kept up with productivity, cost of living, and corporate greed it would be over $100 per hour, over $200,000 per year for a 40 hour per week job. Gen Z needs to raise their expectations.

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    I’m a millennial college grad who has never made more than $50k per year.

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      Incidentally, this is considered average (median, not mean which falsely weights higher earners) income in the US according to the figures at https://lisep.org/ (annualized has been selected in these images):

      I’m wondering whether the figures for degrees also have some representation of skew towards higher earners who tend to have them.

      • TraschcanOfIdeology [they/them, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        I don’t think the higher degree figures paint a very representative picture. Many non-stem (and some stem) PhDs pay really badly if you’re not employed by evil corps. But that can be the case for many professions, too so idk.

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          yeah, I’m on that advanced degree train, but haven’t arrived at the money station. I would say I am probably above average income for my age in similar Cost of Living Areas, but below average for my education in the same. I’m also a tightwad and a scrapper, so I feel like I ball now because I’ve been in far shittier circumstances.

          i have experienced my MSc work to let me out-compete BSc havers for desirable jobs in the public sector and I expect it will probably help me promote up over time so long as I handle my actual shit in the mean time. so, no regrets.

          ever since I got it, I have been trying to get an honorific associated for the MS/MA, the way PhDs get “doctor”. I was thinking “Maestro”, but so far it hasn’t caught on.

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            I’m looking to get a PhD because I don’t think my mix of trauma and neuro divergence makes it possible to do meaningful work in many other industries/positions. I have learned to live with little, and I don’t really mind not having a super high salary, as long as I have s relatively healthy lifestyle.

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    Lmao their actual reported amount is still a shitton more than I make and I have a fuckin degree. A useless one, but one none the less!

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    Bro, we don’t even expect to have jobs at all.

    Besides. When are we going to talk about how business owners expect gen Z grads to all be Ivy League Valedictorians with years of experience…and still want to flip burgers for their picky ass for minimum wage?

    I don’t want to hear shit about dunking on gen Z when we’re also so apparently awesome that you can graduate with a degree and STILL be “unqualified” for internships.

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      This is almost carbon copy of the experience Millennials went through coming out of college, largely because it’s the exact same out-of-touch Boomers who are still perched on the upper rungs of ladders punching down.

      Boomers have completely fucked 3 successive generations of Americans, and they absolutely deserve all the vitriol that comes their way.

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    any analysis of income in the US is kinda butt cheeks without geography / cost of living (aka social reproduction) brought in.

    when 33-50% of what most people deposit goes right back out just so they can have somewhere behind a locked door to set their shit down at night and wash their ass… there’s enough variability in what they actually make after baseline shelter, food, healthcare, required transport, and debt servicing for the amount on the paycheck to be obscured what’s going on.

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    Even in tech ppl are starting to offer like $60k, for the ppl who can even find anything. Like Amazon is not offering 6 figures from the gate anymore

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    I GRADUATE IN A FEW WEEKS HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA agony-deep

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    Back in the day I had no idea what I was going to make when I graduated. Wonder who’s telling them that.

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