Feel like the Vatican regret letting a more progressive one slip through.

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    the best thing that could happen is that trump captures the papacy and moves it to new orleans or something. maybe salt lake city. with trump, who knows.

    a second avignon.

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    Not likely. The most likely Cardinals to be Pope are all liberals. The furthest right that have a realistic chance, given the Cardinal College being stacked with liberals, are Parolin and Turkson as far as I can tell. They’re not very likely to continue trying to open up spaces for LGBTQ people in the Church, and probably will say many more things like what Francis has said about ‘gender ideology.’ More likely still, IMO, are Pizzaballa, Tagle, and other liberals who I think probably would continue Francis’ efforts and might go further. I think it’s extremely unlikely that we get another JPII or Benedict XVI kind of Pope who writes encyclical after encyclical condemning any kind of movement towards tolerance and reform.

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        Depends, Zionist by what metric? Pizzaballa is the one who’s the most pro-Palestine, yet he’s still a Zionist in the sense that he’s affirmed Israel’s right to “defend itself proportionally.” Does that outweigh his outreach and support for Palestinians? I’m personally biased and I definitely think there’s room to argue either way on whether that’s sufficient for someone who’s supposed to be a moral authority. As far as I’m concerned, though, as far as liberals go these are quite decent.

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    100% reich wing fascist. It’s the trend in Europe, US, and their tenticles down south. Francis died at 88 to remind us of how the Catholic Church collabed with i-am-adolf-hitler. He also died right after meeting jaby-vance .

    People go around the times that are significant to them. The universe does have a strange sense of humor and messaging.

    State power uses the church. This pope wasn’t playing ball with state power demands. You can bet power brokers are going behind the scenes as to who would best suit their demands.

    The US evangelicals want Africa to curb it’s independence and China. Africa is going through somewhat a Renaissance and with more and more successful purges of colonalism, perhaps, but not likely, they will realize the missionaries true goal. Most pleb missionaries think they are just spreading the religion, but they are in actuality making the populace easy to control. Then if that backfires it always backfires in an oppressive manner such as say Iran where individual expression is demonized as “foriegn influence.”

    We even see that here with Red Scares in the state. Oh that’s “Chinese” or “Russian” propaganda!

    Much of the world was fine with neurodiverse and queer people before Europeans fucked the world up. They were ancient societies going back eons of experience. Much of the modern laws criminalizing and demonizing queer and neurodivergent stem from state cordinated dogmatic laws.

    So given the hightened state of the world as it is now, i would imagine states would want to grasp more control over not only areas they want to vulture because the tap on their own people is running dry, but also areas of the world where their greedlust corruption influced politicians and benifactors want to vulture even more. The fantical prosperity gospel evangelicals Trump and other reich wing bastards in power with large economic control are most likely going to throw their Pope selection into the hat for ultra conservative candidates.