Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
But why?
Proving our place in the cosmos only required regular evidence. That was extraordinary. Why is this subject on a separate pedestal?
Do you think our astronomical theories were developed on word of mouth, rumor, and “trust me bro?”
Yeah that’s not at all what I said.
And there is plenty of evidence/data that points to something out of the ordinary going on, plenty aside from word of mouth/rumor.
Show me he stoned soldiers.
Am I the only person left that can read? The question is, why is this line of thinking only applied to this subject?
Nope. Can’t read. You caught me.
Everyone wants to jump in and talk about semantics and very specific claims, and no one has answered a very simple question on why they think about this the way they do.
Everything is “paranormal” until it’s explained by science is what I’m trying to get at. Something is very clearly happening with this subject, and it has been systematically ridiculed or put in separate categories of thought and no one is stopping to ask why.
That’s all I’m getting at.
I shouldn’t have come at you like that, that was an asshole move. You’re just the next person to shrug it off instead of actually talk about it, so I took it out on you. Sorry for that.
You’re too focused on the word “extraordinary” but all this adage is meant to convey is that claims require evidence. If you ignore the word “extraordinary” the point remains the same.
The phrase is popular among skeptics because we deal with a lot of paranormal claims. And paranormal claims are by definition, extraordinary.
That is my point entirely. It would just require evidence, just like anything else.
Yes, and I explained why the phrase is worded the way it is because you clearly didn’t understand.
Proving our place in the cosmos already HAS extraordinary evidence. Our continued existence (and witness to that) IS the evidence. No one bar solipsists doubt that humans exist.
I meant the actual mapping of this planet in the universe as we know it as an example of something that changed how we view our place in the universe. It had regular evidence. We don’t need evidence+ for anything including this topic.
Those stone soldiers should have made a world tour 25 years ago when they were declassified.
*stoned
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One of my seven grandpas said you should believe me because I’m a real swell dude
Ha! Three and a half parents! I knews aliens were real!
Why is it that anytime there is anything big, politically or otherwise, happening in the US there is magically talk of UFOs and aliens. Oh, I think I just answered my own question…
Obviously because the aliens get intrigued and the mass influx of intergalactic reality TV show fans causes an increase in sightings which causes a butterfly effect of relevant information to come to light. Duh.
what big thing happened today we should be paying attention to instead?
Literally any and every other thing that’s actually going in the world.
i’m already seeing all the other shit
Trump basically told the Supreme Court they could go fuck themselves. That seems big.
It’s big, but is it news? Can he hold a coherent thought for more than six seconds? Tariffs on, tariffs off, tariffs paused, tariffs resumed, 25%, 10%, 45%, 124%, 0%, aaaand repeat.
Flood the zone with shit.
“A tabloid says the CIA says the KGB saw aliens turn people to stone. Also this is a news article on something that was declassified 25 years ago with no new developments.”
okay
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Make what you want of it. Strange detail at the top: “Document 199 of 54” - wut?
Transcript of the interesting bit:
After Mikhail Gorbachev dissolved, in 1991, the KGB top secret intelligence administration, a lot of material from that department found their way abroad, in particular to the CIA. As reported by the authoritative magazine Canadian Weekly World News, U.S. intelligence obtained a 250-page file on the attack by a UFO on a military unit in Siberia. The file contains not only many documentary photographs and drawings, but also testimonies by actual participants in the events. One of the CIA representatives referred to this case as “a horrific picture of revenge on the part of extraterrestrial creatures, a picture that makes one’s blood freeze.”
According to the KGB materials, a quite low-flying spaceship in the shape of a saucer appeared above a military unit that was conducting routine training maneuvers. For unknown reasons, somebody unexpectedly launched a surface-to-air missile and hit the UFO. It fell to earth not far away, and five short humanoids with “large heads and large black eyes” emerged from it.
It is stated in the testimonies by the two soldiers who remained alive that, after freeing themselves from the debris, the aliens came close together and then “merged into a single object that acquired a spherical shape.” That object began to buzz and hiss sharply, and then became brilliant white. In a few seconds, the spheres grew much bigger and exploded by flaring up with an extremely bright light. At that very instant, 23 soldiers who had watched the phenomenon turned into stone poles. Only two soldiers who stood in the shade and were less exposed to the luminous explosion survived.
The KGB report goes on to say that the remains of the UFO and the “petrified soldiers” were transferred to a secret scientific research institution near Moscow. Specialists assume that a source of energy that is still unknown to earthlings instantly changed the structure of the soldiers’ living organisms, having transformed it into a substance whose molecular composition is no different from that of limestone.
A CIA representative stated: "If the KGB file corresponds to reality, this is an extremely menacing case. The aliens possess such weapons and technology that go beyond all our assumptions. They can stand up for themselves if attacked.
Uh, Canadian Weekly World News was like the Inquirer. Edit: maybe I’m remembering the name “The Inquirer” wrong, but in any case it was tabloid schlock
This is a made up story from the 90s.
That’s nice dear. This is the CIA website archive of a previously classified document.
This is the CIA confirming the reporting of said tabloid.
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199 of 54
Secret rare!
This story has been around for a bit. Probably a bit of absurd misinfo the intelligence agencies circulated to fuck with each other.
How is this “not the Onion”? This isn’t the kind of stuff The Onion prints.
I would consider The Onion several levels above a generic tabloid. Not even in the same class. Like, The Onion actually has class.
