Mods prioritize things good. Are least make the fbi post in self crit for public humiliation
This website is not a threat to capital. This response is frankly ridiculous.
Of course not, but you don’t have to be a threat to capital for some dork with a grudge to get your house swatted or whatever. I can understand peoples aversion to fedposting.
5hen let’s just all post with our real names
Do you think if the US government wanted to link us to our Hexbear usernames they’d struggle with that? Opsec on here is much more about not getting doxxed and harassed by weird right wingers. If the FBI wants to find me it won’t be very difficult.
I don’t think people here have a good sense of just how invasive and all-consuming digital surveillance goes. The server that hosts this site is likely rented from a data center that could be yanked and data mined by any federal agency with a warrant and 30 seconds of notice, the traffic all routes through NSA blackbox sites, and there’s a nonzero chance the device anyone uses to browse here is phoning traffic home to the feds anyway (thanks Google!).
If you’re concerned about feds knowing you shitpost here, then you shouldn’t be shitposting here. A FOIA request isn’t putting anyone here on anyone’s radar that wasn’t already there.
Fucking thank you!!! As a sex worker, I know my hooker alias is linked to my government name in a federal law enforcement database and that governments use facial recognition technology to detain sex workers at international borders. We have anecdotal evidence of this happening for at least the past 6 years. If you’re a leftist who has done any fedposting at all without using op sec that borders on clinical paranoia, you should assume you’re on a list. Knowing you’re on a list doesn’t mean you should throw all caution to the wind, but people should know that you are never really anonymous online and behave accordingly.
The feds will show up at your house with printouts of your social media fedposts.
Those things are not remotely comparable.
Hi officer, my name Carol Marks and my dad is Lenin
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Settler take frankly
I am from a country you invaded
I did not have “Frauddogg self-destructs after calling someone from the global south a settler and then attempting to excuse having served in the US military” on my 2025 Bingo card.
“Everybody is a settler cracker unless proven otherwise” is bound to run into some friendly fire eventually.
Why someone would do that while also having served in the imperial death machine on a site with a sizeable portion of non-American posters is beyond me.
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How about you shut the fuck up considering you were a volunteer soldier in the fascist army?
Was frauddog in the U$ military? Comments are deleted so I cant tell
Yeah, frauddogg discussed it a couple of times.
^ This is in reference to the account deletion.
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Typical yankee painting themselves as the victim when they sign up to murder foreigners
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Hello Mr FBI I would like to know what information you have about us
We know you’re a bunch of libs lmaooooooooooodo i even want to know? happy new year, hexbears
Someone caught a temp ban for saying
was cool and heroic, and someone else recently made a FOIA request to the FBI about Hexbearwhat the fuck why would they do that D:
Someone suggested it like a week ago as like a joke. Everyone was cool with that and unfortunately none of the people freaking out now said anything then. So one of the people in that thread did it. He’s in this thread apologizing and stuff , but I don’t think it’s as big a deal as people are making it out to be, though.
Do people think the FOIA request is gonna like, tip the feds off that this website exists? Because I promise this will not be new information to them. They have always kept close tabs on the left. This site is public and accessible to everyone. I would hope people are not posting here thinking it’s under the radar or something…?
My thoughts exactly.
Yeah that was an incredibly shortsighted, disrespectful, and at worst possibly dangerous thing to do.
I was at work hence no action taken on my part yet. I advocate just banning both those accounts on principle and to teach them not to do shit like that.
Sorry for the issues. In the original post someone made about making a FOIA request the responses seemed positive. I don’t want to cause any issues with HB, y’all are great. I had more responses in this thread but I ultimately I do think it was against better judgement. I don’t think there’s much to risk in putting in a request about an open, public site but I agree with @GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net - there’s also little upsides and was best left alone.
I hope you will read my posts in the thread where the discussion turned into a minor struggle session. I feel partially responsible for leading the discussion in a direction that got the torches lit.
I think this user has demonstrated contrition, made no effort to hide their HB identity, operates an instance, co-operates in the federation to some small extent and is guilty of little more than being a silly goose.
Without serious and regular discussion about OPSEC and our minimum expectations of users in this regard, it is arbitrary to punish this user with a permaban. Their mistake could be our learning opportunity, while the stakes are still incredibly low, to consider moving into the new year with a sober analysis of all these related subjects. Some good could come of it, but a quiet ban as a smack on the wrist sends a message to a very tiny group of people paying attention right now and IMHO would not be a positive or necessary move, where alternative solutions that are positive and might be necessary and useful for the future security of the site and its users exist and are highlighted by this minor event.
Note I am unfamiliar with the user in question and my monkey-brain loyalty wants me to side with @GalaxyBrain for irrational reasons, I am posting sincerely at risk of alienating a user I appreciate.
Lets not start the new year off with some vindictive ban shit, definitely not anything rash or impulsive.
With all due respect for your limited time and with gratitude for your efforts in helping hexbear stay rad.
I’m still mad at you for deleting my Luigi related comment cause you misentetepted it as being pro NYPD take, but I agree with you here.
Fair enough I was dealing with a whole bunch of fires to put out all over that day srry you caught a stray.
I’m not really thaaaat mad. Now I’m not at all. Thanks for the sorry.
Oh FFS what now
Someone freedom of information acted hexbear and it’s taken a really long time to get removed. I called the poster a snitch repeatedly and made a lot of joke posts surrounding it thst I think are pretty keen. But yeah someone asked the fbi how much they knew about hexbear like that doesn’t draw attention and maybe put people in danger. My opsec sucks cause come at me bro. But I feel pretty strongly about someone just essentially emailing the feds to say this site is potentially interesting. I’ll take my own risk but I won’t compromise others and this is very much doing that. Never contact the fucking fbi requesting info about aledtist forum. They’re for sure keeping an eye on it now if they werent before.
We’re we doxed at all?
No, we’re still as open as any pseudonymous clearnet forum with anonymous read access. ANY malicious actor could do more damage to the site (a banned user for example, or a right wing troll crew) at any time without even exposing themselves to us.
This is not a forum for serious organising of the sort of activity that would draw state/federal/national/transnational cop attention.
But the volcel police are always watching.
No, but it was pretty irresponsible. It’s getting publicly available info on what the fbi has on you, but asking in and of itself is just unnecessary and can only do harm and is at best pointless.
It’s more of a
“Hey feds! What dirt do you have on hexbear.net, aka chapo.chat?”
“Let us check…nothing. You went through all that effort to contact us for that. Should we have a file on it?”
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I can pretty much guarantee that they receive enough frivolous requests that they don’t bother to take a deeper look at every one that turns up blank. Even if they did, they’re just going to find leftist shit posters that don’t organise anything more than the occasional fundraiser and book club. If they care about any of Hexbears users it will be for their irl activities, not their posting.
I thought all the people acting like the feds care about this site were joking.
some folks didn’t get the joke I guess
staggeringly reckless thing to do
Some person emailed the FBI about hexbear for a FOIA request
Chances are they were already aware of us, but also wtf who the fuck cares about us that much that they would do that. Our haters have some wild priorities.
It was me. I promise I am no hater of HB. It’s an awesome site with great people. I put the request in as a response to a post asking someone to make a FOIA request.. The response then was positive. Last thing I want is to cause site drama. There’s a discussion here: https://hexbear.net/comment/5784821
with regards to the “encouragement” thread, people here are always posting under a thousand layers of irony, but talking to or inquiring with the feds for any reason is generally a bad idea, and i don’t really care about how minor or fruitless it seems to some. it costs you absolutely nothing to not contact the feds.
It could’ve been interesting though if they did have something on us. It would’ve been worth it to know and doesn’t really cost us anything that they made the request. People are making these requests all the time, literally anyone can do it. YouTubers, podcasters, journalists, there are so many frivolous requests, it’s not that big a deal. We’re not all suddenly going to get swatted or get a file because some office stone had to do a ctrl-f in their database for some dumb, niche website. This site is nothing compared to the more public facing organizations that do actual work in the real world.
Yeah the FOIA backlog is absurd. Ken Klippenstein was just complaining about it recently.
I thought it was funny
What does “lemonizing” mean btw?
edit: I missed the discourse when luigi’s politics were uncovered, heard about it elsewhere.
It’s supposed to be “lionizing,” but OP misspelled it on purpose as “lemonizing” as a bit.
There’s a whole ass Wikipedia article on this:
heheh, I just came back over from the modpost in the main hexbear community stating the site’s policy on The Adjuster and made the connection. I feel silly for not getting it originally.
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