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NapoleonBlownApart [he/him]@hexbear.net to politics@hexbear.netEnglish ·
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Yessssssss!!!!! "BlueMaga" is now officially in public discourse!

www.newsweek.com

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Yessssssss!!!!! "BlueMaga" is now officially in public discourse!

www.newsweek.com

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What is Blue MAGA? Joe Biden's vocally online defenders
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Some supporters of the president have been accused of rhetoric similar to Donald Trump's fierce loyalists.
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  • Comp4 [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    Cant wait for Trump to call Biden a Tankie on live TV.

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      “No, no, I uh, I uh, uhhh, look fat, you’re YOU are the Russian” biden-forgor

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        Here’s the deal, Jack: you call me a tankie, but listen—back in ’68, Prague, Hungary, all those places… tanks everywhere. Ten, twenty tanks in one city. You better believe it. I stood up against communism, and Mao! We stood up against it too, folks - many times, we beat the drum against…We had a victory over communism, just like my administration had a victory over…over, Social Security. My dad used to say… wait… Oh, right, victory. I cede my time.

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          sorry, I shouldn’t have said that.

          • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]@hexbear.net
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            Anyway

    • NapoleonBlownApart [he/him]@hexbear.netOP
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      He would really enunciate the “E” at the end.

      a-little-trolling tankeeeeeee

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        These Tankeees, folks. They are bad people. They want to cause infinite 9/11s on the West—can you believe that? But we won’t let Biden and his Tankeees cause infinite 9/11s on our beautiful country. Tankeee, that’s what they call them

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        LenEEEEn

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        I feel like he’d begin riffin on how tankee and anteefa sound similar. “Why do they do it folks? Ee ee they always say ee. They sound so weak! That’s another ee!”

    • Gay_Tomato [they/them, it/its]@hexbear.net
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      The only way to kill it for good.

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      O/U on it being before Biden or his camp call anyone saying he should step down one?

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    A key part of Blue MAGA, one which this article doesn’t highlight, which Newsweek is probably incapable of highlighting, is the belief that the United States can turn back the clock and return to a nostalgic, mythical golden age. This is the common foundation which MAGA and Blue MAGA are founded upon. A political outlook resembling the belief that a pile of ashes can be turned back into a tree.

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      Also historically a key point of many fascist groups.

    • NapoleonBlownApart [he/him]@hexbear.netOP
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      Very well put!

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    It’s so funny that radical centrism is a thing.

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      It’s all the suburbanites who’ve benefited from inflation, owners of inflating assets like homes and rental properties which in this monstrous aberration of a country literally represents tens of millions of people

      Then you add their trust-fund maladjusted brats into the picture and suddenly this army of psycho centrists make sense

    • NapoleonBlownApart [he/him]@hexbear.netOP
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      I don’t know how they can’t see their positions sliding to the right

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        They don’t care because it’s the blues doing it. Hell they don’t care if they go full right (see praising immigration and genocide) as long as it’s a blue

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          Yeah, all those people back in the 20th were right about class interests being more important than any ideology for many people.

    • HelltakerHomosexual [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      lets look inside

      dammit, its fascism again

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      :jreg-shining:

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    “I’m BlueMAGA and proud of it, if that means standing up for democracy, stopping Trump, Project 2025, Agenda 47, MAGA and staying in the fight with the most legislatively successful president in modern American history: Mr. Joe Biden,” the PAC posted.

    Beyond parody. Sounds exactly like a MAGA chud but for brump

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      Most legislatively successful president in modern history?

      Sam Seder also said recently that Biden is the best Dem president in living memory (low bar).

      Where are these things coming from? Like, unironically, I want to know what they’re referring to

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        Sam Seder also said recently that Biden is the best Dem president in living memory (low bar).

        They are liberals and can only remember as far back as what they had for breakfast.

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          You mean brunch surely maybe-later-kiddo

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            I had the omelets with uh… ah dang it, Jack

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        Taking this in good faith, it’s possible Biden’s genocide(s?) and other policies have led to fewer deaths than those of Obama and Clinton.

        Biden: Palestine, Yemen, I assume some others I’m forgetting about, COVID domestically

        Obama: Yemen, continued the US occupation of the middle east (but Biden was VP for those so feel like he probably has to get some credit)

        Clinton: Bombing of Yugoslavia, Iraq (al-Shifa pharmaceutical factory), the crime bill domestically (but written by Biden soooo)

        Even so, this is like comparing which Axis leader was the “best” during WWII. It doesn’t matter and all of them deserve the wall.

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        • somename [she/her]@hexbear.net
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          Can’t forget Ukraine deaths from forcing the war to be prolonged. That’s a lot of death.

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        I’ve been using that joke for years. Because unless you run into someone up Trump or Obama’s ass, it’s hard to disagree with and such a huge indictment of the system as a whole. Because every regular person agrees that Biden sucks

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        Oh man I saw that segment and scouring back through my watched videos to find it for context (will edit later with the link when I find it). Idk about “living memory” (if that direct phrase was quoted), but I remember him talking about in his memory *comparing president’s like Clinton/Obama/Biden (maybe Carter was included). I still agree that statement was rather perplexing without him immediately filling in the context of what he means.

        Happily though, I seem to recall his team immediately rejecting the premise and pushing back on his statement as un-profound. I think it’s something he needs to clarify, as it seems to hit everyone’s nerves a bit. Kinda funny how one statement can paint a picture of a guy and now a commenter is calling him a Liberal lol (he constantly has segments arguing with callers who are lib).

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          It was a caller who suggested Biden was the best, and Sam agrees. The team didn’t push back. His reasoning was that it is an incredibly low bar to clear.

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            ok, thanks for narrowing the search down I guess? Just as an offside, if someone remembers differently then going “nuh uh, THIS happened” is just unhelpful without providing the context (article, video, anything so it’s not just two crabby people arguing over perception or misremembering).

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              Ah, sorry, I didn’t know we were arguing

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                Definitely not arguing. Just saying if I refuted anything you responded back with, it would quickly dissolve into just a weird no-context dispute lol. You might be right with the push back, I just remember that they didn’t agree (maybe just the vibe they were giving off without fully dissecting how his statement was false).

                But I digress, off to work for the day where I can listen to the videos in the background so I can edit with a timestamp on my original reply. Thank you for the replies and have a good day!

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        second-plane

      • Cowbee [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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        Wait until you hear about Trump’s Rule 34!

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      doomer

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        Unrelated, but I love your username.

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          Thanks! It’s on the of those dumb things that popped into my head a while back and I decided I should use it for something

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    Because it finally broke thru in the comments on reddit-logo politics threads about how much Biden bricked

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      I was lurking over there just for the laughs. This almost makes up for libs learning the word “tankies”

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        Now the liberals will learn “patsoc” or “magacom” in the next episode “The Neoliberal Empire Strikes Back!”

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          patsoc

          I want to change it to Pazi

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            Monkey paw curls, pazi catches on but it’s the anarchists calling the tankies that because “tankie” no longer makes communists mad

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            Patsy is pretty close after that and fairly apt.

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      Bricked Up Brandon, I call him

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    Posting really is praxis!

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    Blue Maga solidarity Red Tories

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    https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1e0afli/what_is_blue_maga_joe_bidens_vocally_online/ - 42% upvoted

    https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1e0a902/blue_maga_is_entering_the_american_political/ - 31% upvoted

    At least currently the hogs don’t seem to be squealing over it, just mass-downvoting.

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      The people calling others BlueMaga seem to be gaining traction too

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      Reddit links were detected in your comment. Here are links to the same locations on alternative frontends that protect your privacy.

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    Hahahahaha and they tried so hard for tankie to get adopted over the years

    Sucks to suck

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    Did blue maga originate on here/the old sub?

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      Not sure. It’s is possible, since we have been just about the only people that felt that way about democrats for the longest time. Also, we have brump

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      Been around since at least(?) 2019 I think.

      I want to say it started when liberals were sweeping Biden’s sexual assault under the rug and tut-tutting people for mentioning the many horrid pieces of legislation he has been responsible for.

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        : p

        The way they killed #metoo almost literally over night visible-disgust

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      The oldest reference to it should be discoverable via search, there’s text archives of both forums for better or worse.

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        First instance of Blue Maga or BlueMaga:

        https://hexbear.net/comment/5995 26 July 2020 06:21:26 GMT
        @ComradeStalin@hexbear.net

        Blue Maga

        First instance of BlueAnon or Blue Anon:

        https://hexbear.net/comment/72555 14 August 2020 01:14:29 GMT
        @glimmer_twin@hexbear.net

        Blue MAGA, plus Russiagate is BlueAnon

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          Someone searched for blue maga in 2007 via Google trends but that’s not very helpful. The first occurrence I found online was on May 9th of 2020 in a tweet: https://x.com/zei_squirrel/status/1258930482554769408?lang=en

          The second ever recorded instance of blue maga on Google (via https://www.oldestsearch.com/) was by none other than Bes D. Marx in August of 2020 https://x.com/BesDMarx/status/1299408351755988994

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            heh april 2020 beating those yet again berdly-smug

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              Good enough for me.

              We have officially something the discourse.

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              Were you on the old sub? I swear I remember it being used in primary season, probably in or before March?

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          I have facebook posts using it April 2020, proving I did in fact invent the term, heh (nobody doxx me)

          My first use of the term was specifically in regards to the SA allegations by Tara Reade and how the Biden Bros ™ were acting just like their redMAGA counterparts in case anyone wants to know their history

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      I started saying it while insulting liberals and never read it anywhere before I started saying it so I’m pretty sure I invented it, you’re all welcome

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        thank u

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      Goes back to 2020 at least.

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    I have to admit that I like BlueAnon much more.

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      They’re two different things in my opinion. BlueMaga are the process nerds and horse race freaks.

      BlueAnon are the ones saying that CNN tampered with Brandon’s mic to make him seem old

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      I like blue fash too

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    Lol, i crossposted this to lemmy to see if it makes any libs mad, now we just need some politician to say tankie

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    im-doing-my-part

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    glee

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