I guess I find the current obsession with russo-ukrianian conflict strange and maybe even counter productive given the tasks that are at hand right now like rebuilding the lefts organizational capacity creating local connections and services things that are more fun then rust-darkness watching a war you know from across the ocean or like cheer leading for brics or whatever because its not like that effects really anything unless leaders of foreign or a senator goes on hexbear which would be equally funny and maddening. I guess I don’t just want to left to be a sub culture forever.

I work with two organizations in my area since they are the only to exist.

We got so much shit to do we need more people analyzing in real time and producing theory and praxis at the same time. You know walk and chew bubblegum, like I find it hard to find people besides like 3-4 American commentary that produce new Marxist anaylist on the current econmy.

  • zifnab25 [he/him, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
    9·
    2 years ago

    First, the vast majority of the American left are social democrats who support US imperialism.

    I don’t think that’s accurate or fair.

    The vast majority of the American left is anti-war and anti-imperialist. However, they’re just as vulnerable to the propaganda saturation of mass media as anyone.

    Second, of the remaining Marxist-Leninists who care, do remember that Marxism-Leninism is founded on the principles of internationalism.

    I think the crux of the issue is that you can’t act intentionally if you don’t have a base of support locally.

    Third, the conditions for socialism in America are deeply tied to the demise of global neoliberal order.

    The demise of Neoliberalism is predicated on a restoration of local self-reliance. The global financialization is predicted on regional drought. Deprive the Global South of industry and the Global North of agriculture. Separate the ownership of property from the ownership of debt and of physical capital. Then collect a vig every time money changes hands.

    The only way to break that chain and liberate people is to re-establish local productive capital.

    Otherwise, all you’re talking about doing is immiserating locals by severing the supply chains between them.

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
        5·
        2 years ago

        When was the last time you saw Brace, Anders, Christman, or Richard Wolff do the Free Hong Kong or Slava Ukraine bullshit?

        When was the last time you saw this from the DSA?

            • GarbageShoot [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
              4·
              2 years ago

              I’m sure that there are great ones too, but suffice it to say that the northeast has a lot of VoteBlue ideology even among its “socialists” and then more radical segments tend to be third-campists (who thereby also tend to like barely-veiled color revolution campaigns).

    • pillow [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
      25·
      2 years ago

      The vast majority of the American left is anti-war and anti-imperialist

      the vast majority of the american left can’t handle bananas going up in price by like 25%. imagine selling them on internationalism.

      “no, your standard of living won’t really improve; in fact without all of our neocolonies and client states you’ll probably be worse off than before. dework? no way, actually it would be monstrous to sit back and enjoy your pile of imperialist loot, you will work at least as much as before and export your surplus to help your fellow workers whom you despoiled to become this comfortable in the first place. I’ll be taking all your toys too since our carbon budget was overdrawn like 75 years ago. so, how would you like to risk life and limb for the revolution, comrade?”

    • CyborgMarx [any, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
      25·
      2 years ago

      The vast majority of the American left is anti-war and anti-imperialist. However, they’re just as vulnerable to the propaganda saturation of mass media as anyone.

      You’re contradicting yourself there, if the American left is vulnerable to the propaganda saturation of mass media then they aren’t anti-war or anti-imperialist, as we’ve all seen in the last year and a half, the American “left” is fully comfortable with war and western military expansion as long as it’s coached in acceptable terms by the media

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
        5·
        2 years ago

        if the American left is vulnerable to the propaganda saturation of mass media then they aren’t anti-war or anti-imperialist

        Pitching the Ukraine war as anti-imperialist and the coups in West Africa as pro-war help confuse and dilute the response our meager leftist organizations can manage.

        The morase of propaganda serves to divorce principle from action, as people with similar motives respond differently based on their sources of information.

        the American “left” is fully comfortable with war and western military expansion

        Shy of simply not joining the military, there isn’t a lot Leftists can do to directly combat military expansionism.

        How would this site even treat a more radical approach? Would they know if a local base was being picketed by anti-war protesters? Would they even support it, or would they simply fed-jacket the protesters and whine about liberalism not going far enough?